Henry Kissinger used to practice Realpolitik, but he got fuzzy there at the end where he suddenly thought taking Ukraine into NATO was a good idea. I have a feeling by then it was his trusty aides who were writing for him. We need a HUGE measure of realism now. I am not even sure we can avoid the catastrophe we have provoked around the g…
Henry Kissinger used to practice Realpolitik, but he got fuzzy there at the end where he suddenly thought taking Ukraine into NATO was a good idea. I have a feeling by then it was his trusty aides who were writing for him. We need a HUGE measure of realism now. I am not even sure we can avoid the catastrophe we have provoked around the globe with our endless weapons provisioning and war-prodding. The world is on edge, but few are the leaders.
I'm a bit hesitant. Russia and China were also realpolitikers. I recall going to Honduras on the eve of the elections, in the 1980s (late) when party primaries were impending, and I had to dive in and get to know one party about to vote. From that moment, the OTHER party identified me as WITH the other party, and though I dined them in my home and enjoyed them, I became a football. I was this, or that, or not. But I was really nothing. Kissinger was not Svengali. Think of the nationalist corruption in those years that fed Kissinger's power -- not American thinking. It was REALPOLITIK. Morality -- not anywhere near there. In Vietnam, Laos, Burma -- corruption helped grease the US skids.
Kissinger was a realist, and he understood one cannot go backwards in time. Ukraine is in NATO, de facto, and this fact cannot be changed except by overwhelming conventional military force that Russia doesn’t have or nuclear force that Russia isn’t willing to use.
Ukraine exists today as a de facto NATO member, although somewhat smaller in size from original. Exact borders, of somewhat smaller Ukraine would be decided in negotiations, before the ceasefire in realist’s world
where did all that come from -- the mixture of fact and fantasy? Ukraine ain't in NATO and if you think it is, wait for the encirclement of Kursk and the wiping out of those forces. See if NATO declares war openly, like an honest organization, or just digs around in other people's shit looking for how to set it on fire. The US is the premier state sponsor of terrorism and a rogue nation that refuses to recognize international law. Its henchmen in Europe are just our lackeys, no sovereignty, no will of their own, and with their economies bending at the knees. The glorious warmaking west will get what it earns and though we must all pay for Americans' stupid arrogance, it will be worth it to see the mighty fall.
Henry Kissinger used to practice Realpolitik, but he got fuzzy there at the end where he suddenly thought taking Ukraine into NATO was a good idea. I have a feeling by then it was his trusty aides who were writing for him. We need a HUGE measure of realism now. I am not even sure we can avoid the catastrophe we have provoked around the globe with our endless weapons provisioning and war-prodding. The world is on edge, but few are the leaders.
He was sugar daddy to a dozen different war criminals. Never gave a lick about smaller nations.
His big realist moment was recognizing US couldn't beat China + Russia together, and then making a good offer to get China to come to the US side.
I'm a bit hesitant. Russia and China were also realpolitikers. I recall going to Honduras on the eve of the elections, in the 1980s (late) when party primaries were impending, and I had to dive in and get to know one party about to vote. From that moment, the OTHER party identified me as WITH the other party, and though I dined them in my home and enjoyed them, I became a football. I was this, or that, or not. But I was really nothing. Kissinger was not Svengali. Think of the nationalist corruption in those years that fed Kissinger's power -- not American thinking. It was REALPOLITIK. Morality -- not anywhere near there. In Vietnam, Laos, Burma -- corruption helped grease the US skids.
Kissinger was a realist, and he understood one cannot go backwards in time. Ukraine is in NATO, de facto, and this fact cannot be changed except by overwhelming conventional military force that Russia doesn’t have or nuclear force that Russia isn’t willing to use.
Ukraine exists today as a de facto NATO member, although somewhat smaller in size from original. Exact borders, of somewhat smaller Ukraine would be decided in negotiations, before the ceasefire in realist’s world
where did all that come from -- the mixture of fact and fantasy? Ukraine ain't in NATO and if you think it is, wait for the encirclement of Kursk and the wiping out of those forces. See if NATO declares war openly, like an honest organization, or just digs around in other people's shit looking for how to set it on fire. The US is the premier state sponsor of terrorism and a rogue nation that refuses to recognize international law. Its henchmen in Europe are just our lackeys, no sovereignty, no will of their own, and with their economies bending at the knees. The glorious warmaking west will get what it earns and though we must all pay for Americans' stupid arrogance, it will be worth it to see the mighty fall.
It’s realism.