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Kissinger was a realist, and he understood one cannot go backwards in time. Ukraine is in NATO, de facto, and this fact cannot be changed except by overwhelming conventional military force that Russia doesn’t have or nuclear force that Russia isn’t willing to use.

Ukraine exists today as a de facto NATO member, although somewhat smaller in size from original. Exact borders, of somewhat smaller Ukraine would be decided in negotiations, before the ceasefire in realist’s world

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where did all that come from -- the mixture of fact and fantasy? Ukraine ain't in NATO and if you think it is, wait for the encirclement of Kursk and the wiping out of those forces. See if NATO declares war openly, like an honest organization, or just digs around in other people's shit looking for how to set it on fire. The US is the premier state sponsor of terrorism and a rogue nation that refuses to recognize international law. Its henchmen in Europe are just our lackeys, no sovereignty, no will of their own, and with their economies bending at the knees. The glorious warmaking west will get what it earns and though we must all pay for Americans' stupid arrogance, it will be worth it to see the mighty fall.

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It’s realism.

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