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We talk about "rules based order" a lot, but what is an example where rules have constrained the United States from something it believed it needed to do for national security reasons?

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Could have made life so painful for Afghanistan's people that they feared choosing the Taliban. It would have been easy to support the Northern Alliance, who would have done the dirty work in much the same way the Baathists did in Iraq. I provide that as an example, but I think it was viewed as being in our national interests to treat the Afghani and Iraqis reasonably well following the invasions. In Afghanistan's case, they ultimately chose the Taliban, and as long as they don't send terrorists our way, we don't care. We even send aid and will send a lot more, assuming they treat their people in a fashion we find a little less objectionable.

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Wanted to add that the USSR behaved the same way as the US did in Afghanistan. That, along with the fact that Putin has not gone "Total Stalin" in Ukraine, gives me some hope that things can be worked out. I agree with Dr. Mershheimer that the ultimate outcome is probably a Ukrainian rump state but as long as they hold on to Odessa, I think, but don't know, that it would be a tolerable outcome. Does that make any sense?

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