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Wanted to add that the USSR behaved the same way as the US did in Afghanistan. That, along with the fact that Putin has not gone "Total Stalin" in Ukraine, gives me some hope that things can be worked out. I agree with Dr. Mershheimer that the ultimate outcome is probably a Ukrainian rump state but as long as they hold on to Odessa, I think, but don't know, that it would be a tolerable outcome. Does that make any sense?

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