On 2 May 2024, I spoke with Judge Napolitano on his podcast — “Judging Freedom” — about the Israel lobby’s Herculean efforts to shut down criticism of Israel, especially its murderous policies toward the Palestinians in Gaza.
I agree 100%. But what’s more important is that the excellent advice that John has been giving somehow needs to be acted upon. It needs to be effectively acted upon because not acting upon it amounts to what should be considered to be a cardinal sin.
• Israel is doing enormous damage to its image in the US and globally. How anyone in Israel can think that:
(i) killing Palestinians by the tens of thousands, and displacing millions of Palistinains is somehow acceptable, or that it can justify their actions by claiming Hamas is causing it thru use if human shields, or
(ii) continuing a brutal 50-plus year military occupation, and running an obvious defacto aparthied state, for which neither has any end in sight (save ethnic cleansing) is somehow acceptable.
• Israel has a lot of reality to keep out of headlines.
1. There is no evidence of rape. You also conveniently leave out the fact that many of the Israelis burned to crisp that day were by the Israeli forces themselves, because of the Hannibal directive.
2. Correct. There is no excuse. And the Israelis have now murdered, mutilated, tortured over 34,000 Gazans. 14,000 children which is a low estimate. There is no excuse, these are considered war crimes by the majority of the rest of the world.
3. Slightly incorrect. No Arab world leaders want Gazans. Many citizens of the Arab world are livid because of the obvious ethnic cleansing/genocide going on which you never admit to here, and want something done now by the heinous mass killings by IDF sadists.
4. Egypt has threatened to cancel the peace accords if Israel plans to take over the Southern border. Which you omit here. Did you know that everything coming out of the mouth of most corrupt Israeli officials, and guys like you monkey.works are either complete lies, half lies, or lies by omission? Why should anybody take you or the rest of the genocidal maniacs you support seriously?
5. Everything going in and out of Gaza was completely controlled by the Israelis. This is a lie by definition since Gazans were restricted by the types of food they ate - what water they could drink, the amount of electricity they received and who the Israelis got to freely imprison (without due process) or even shoot while protesting near the wall. Your lie here and it is a lie, is that Gaza isn't completely surrounded by the Israelis and are nothing more than prisoners in an open air prison.
6. you misspelled legislation
7. No, the reason why the middle east is a mess is because of a rogue criminal state called Israel which is right now committing human genocide - has already slaughter 14,000+ children trapped in a small parcel of land, and you're defending that.
I’m not lying. I’m viewing a documentary that provides irrefutable first hand evidence. What do you have to prove these women are lying? They have blood spilled from their groin, in pictures.
See: Max Blumenthal, editor of The Grayzone's reporting in SCHEERPOST regarding this subject. It is entitled: "Max Blumenthal: NYT Pulls Hamas Rape Podcast Over Internal Conflict on Shoddy Reporting" (February 4, 2024)
Can you note any specific timestamps that you consider to be smoking-gun level proof so I can view the same clips and see if I agree with your perception?
A blatant lie and false accusation of genocide against Israel is absolutely false NOT even the anti Israel ICJ court ruled it was. Anyone that ridiculously and falsely accuses Israel of committing genocide are blatantly disinformation hacks consisting of either anti Israel Islamists or pro Hamas supporters or radical left Marxists activists who are also vile anti Israel and or misinformed useful idiots and ignorant or bigots. If there was no Israel the Islamic Arab Middle East World would not magically have better human rights, women’s rights, gay rights or no civil wars like Yemen and Syria and bankrupt Lebanon etc
There was absolutely butchery and rape the evidence is overwhelming and contemporaneous please don’t be so blatantly in denial or blatant liar. Funny how Egypt threatened Israel Re : the peace accord if Israel went into Rafah. As soon as Israel rightly did go into Rafah it found Hamas terror tunnels leading into Egypt.so it clearly indicates Egypt turned a blind eye and blatantly allowed lethal weapons into Gaza for Hamas for years to fire into Israel . Egypt locked its borders but as soon it allowed some aid in it took massive kickback and extorted bribes from to allow aid into Gaza from Egypt.
Thank you for the list of personal opinions stated as if they were facts.
This has been (and continues to be) a very successful propaganda technique for Israel and her supporters throughout the years, but some of us can see through it.
Does it make you feel silly when someone point blank tells you that they can see through your untruths?
Do you see your through your pathetic denial of facts by deluding your brain to say they are just opinions or not true. By the way many credible opinions are based on facts for if they weren’t then the opinions would be worthless. ( like yours )
Agree Hamas Oct 7 was undeniably horrific and blatant including Heads being hacked off and multiple savage and violent rapes by Hamas and Islamic jihad yet some people on here are in denial and shockingly vile anti Israel Marxists lefties or anti Semites or pro Hamas apologists or Islamists
Mr Mearsheimer. You have a real problem on this comments page. You have people saying that rape of Israeli women by Hamas did not occur on October 7. If you really want this kind of thing to be your legacy, after a prolific career, do nothing about it.
Could you reference this poll w a link since it flies in the face of most current polling and the 1200 figure of which even the Israeli military has said was a over estimate?
This article is from a right-wing news outlet w a clear agenda to support Israel w unsubstantiated claims from highly discredit Zaka, in the article the Israel military claims slightly less than 700 civilians were killed and not how they were killed and by whom. It's is already known that Israei military is not credible and their claims need to be verified by independent sources which they make extremely difficult. In short, your argument is weak, I would refer you to prof Finkelstein on this issue , he has a sub stack.
Oh really? And what is your source for that despicable lie? Terrorists used GoPro cameras to document their own atrocities because they were so proud of them.
A new vector in the domestic political divide and conquer fear-control-signal war-time soup: Via Scott Galloway ( a dilbert cartoonist lookalike from NYU) and David Rubinstein (carlyle)....the idea is being "seeded" on the propaganda wires: "The campus protests are about young people seeing no future, and so Seniors will soon see Social Security/Medicare being taken away given the demographic decline that's coming". Third rail what third rail? Fear and control. Potent.
AIPAC bots/Unit 8200 sock puppet battalion AIs aren't tone deaf, they are just scripts. Since the flak being thrown up on (unmoderated & no entry fee to post) comment sections is mostly automated, every second you spend arguing with their fake personae (not actual, individual people with minds to be educated) is a tactical victory for cyber Zionism, wearing out their meat sack opponents, distracting and wasting their resources.
Israel is undermining our democratic process via AIPAC. Our leaders place our national security at risk with continued military support of Israel and raid our treasury to pay for Israel’s war and genocide. And now Israel is tearing apart our constitutional rights. I simply cannot wrap my mind around the fact that Americans are not marching in the tens of millions on DC right now and demanding the resignation of every single politician from the White House down who has essentially given a foreign government control of our country and in doing so obliterated our national sovereignty. This is treasonous.
I continue to be intrigued by the argument that free speech is a “core value” of the United States.
Were this the case, the entire censorship regime of Covid could not have existed as an overwhelming majority of Americans not only would have opposed it, but would have gathered tar & feathers for its instigators and propagators.
My political memory extends to pre-1968. The left has never - at least since Skokie and an ACLU that no longer exists - believed in free speech. The passage of this attack on the First Amendment shows that the right no longer does, either. 1A has joined 2A, 4A, 6A, 8A, 9A and 10A as uncomfortable infringements on the usurpation by the Feds of power not delegated to the Feds. It also shows that governors don’t care, and that over half of the franchise rejects free speech, as well.
What an asshole for calling Israel 'murderous' when they are the ones who suffered the murder of 1200 people at the hands of a barbaric terrorist organization and mob. Israel defending itself against this happening again is what every country in the world would do if faced with something so horrific.
This has nothing to do with an Israel lobby. The recent Harris-Harvard poll showed 80% of Americans support Israel in this fight.
But, not you — you keep up your decades-long animus toward Israel and Jews. Shame on you…
Oh, so 14,000+ children just massacred on a small parcel of land isn't murderous? Israelis call the Palestinians "animals" - similar to what the Nazi Germans did to those they mass murdered as well. Just because you call the Gazan's subhuman and animals - doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees with your despicable characterization - nor is the rest of the world going along with your crimes against humanity, the bombing of all the hospitals in Gaza, the murdering of 34,000 unarmed civilians including children - and pretending you had to do it. No - you didn't have to do it - and you have become the very barbaric terrorist organization you condemn. The Israelis are even worse mass murderers of innocents than the Palestinians ever were.
What is your reference for Israelis calling Palestinians “animals“?
Unlike barbaric Hamas and other Palestinian terror organizations who specifically target innocent people, Israel tries to avoid civilian casualties. But Hamas intentionally hides behind civilians. These despicable animals, and in this case the word is too generous a term, use hospitals, mosques, and schools to hide their weapons and terrorists.
The only good Hamas is a dead Hamas. Only then will innocent civilian Palestinians have a chance to live in peace.
No it doesn't. This is a lie. You're lying here and then want me to answer your question and engage with your bs, when you are being intellectually dishonest. You want respect but you have no respect for me with what is an obvious lie - an insult to my intelligence and the rest of the world's intelligence. Take a hike.
Yes, they do. If Israel wanted to have ended this war in one hour, they easily could have and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Instead, they go house to house trying to root out the terrorists and put their own young soldiers at risk. Blame Hamas for every civilian death.
You are being deliberately intellectually dishonest here and no longer deserve my time or personal effort to refute your defense of Israel's genocidal actions. Hopefully, Netanyahu and the rest of the Hitler like leaders in Israel will face war crime trials by the Hague, once they have implemented their final solution against the Palestinians. Which appears like they will succeed in doing. So congratulations on your sadistic mass murder of Palestinians.
The only intentional mass murder attempt was by Hamas. And then, within days of the atrocity on October 7, the spokesperson for Hamas said they will do more and more attacks like October 7 until they are successful.
Congratulations on being a stooge and dupe for these terrorists. Shame on you.
I will copy and paste some expressions of genocidal intent from Israel officials from South Africa application to ICJ:
Prime Minister of Israel: On 7 October 2023, in a televised address by the Government
Press Office, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promised to “operate forcefully
everywhere”. On 13 October 2023, he confirmed that “[w]e are striking our enemies with unprecedented might . . .”.
On 15 October 2023, when Israeli airstrikes had already killed over 2,670 Palestinians, including 724 children, the Prime Minister stated that Israeli soldiers “understand the scope of the mission” and stand ready “to defeat the bloodthirsty monsters who have risen against [Israel] to destroy us”.On 16 October 2023, in a formal address to the Israeli Knesset, he described situation as “a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle”,
a dehumanising theme to which he returned on various occasions, including: on 3 November 2023, in a letter to Israeli soldiers and officers also published on the platform ‘X’ (formerly Twitter); the letter asserted that: “[t]his is the war between the sons of light and the sons of darkness. We will not let up on our mission until the light overcomes the darkness — the good will defeat the extreme evil that threatens us and the entire world.” The Israeli Prime Minister also returned to the theme inhis ‘Christmas message’, stating: “we’re facing monsters, monsters who murdered children in
front of their parents . . . This is a battle not only of Israel against these barbarians, it’s a battle of civilization against barbarism”. On 28 October 2023, as Israeli forces prepared their land invasion of Gaza, the Prime Minister invoked the Biblical story of the total destruction of Amelek by the Israelites, stating: “you must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember”. The Prime Minister referred again to Amalek in the letter sent on 3 November 2023 to Israeli soldiers and officers. The relevant biblical passage reads as follows: “Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.
President of Israel: On 12 October 2023, President Isaac Herzog made clear that Israel
was not distinguishing between militants and civilians in Gaza, stating in a press conference to foreign media — in relation Palestinians in Gaza, over one million of whom are children: “It’s an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware not involved. It’s absolutely not true. … and we will fight until we break their backbone.” On 15 October 2023, echoing the words of Prime Minister Netanyahu, the President told foreign media that “we will uproot evil so that there will be good for the entire region and the world.”
Israeli Minister of Energy and Infrastructure: ‘Tweeting’ on 13 October 2023, Israel
Katz stated: “All the civilian population in Gaza is ordered to leave immediately. We will win.
They will not receive a drop of water or a single battery until they leave the world.”457 On 12
October 2023, he ‘tweeted’: “Humanitarian aid to Gaza? No electrical switch will be turned on,
no water hydrant will be opened and no fuel truck will enter until the Israeli abductees are
returned home. Humanitarianism for humanitarianism. And no one will preach us morality.”458
Israeli Minister of Finance: On 8 October 2023, Bezalel Smotrich stated at a meeting
of the Israeli Cabinet that “[w]e need to deal a blow that hasn’t been seen in 50 years and take
down Gaza.”
Israeli Minister of Heritage: On 1 November 2023, Amichai Eliyahu posted on
Facebook: “The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever. Everything is blown up and
flattened, simply a pleasure for the eyes … We must talk about the day after. In my mind, we
will hand over lots to all those who fought for Gaza over the years and to those evicted from
Gush Katif” [a former Israeli settlement].4He later argued against humanitarian aid as “[w]e
wouldn’t hand the Nazis humanitarian aid”, and “there is no such thing as uninvolved civilians
in Gaza”. He also posited a nuclear attack on the Gaza Strip.
Israeli Army Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (‘COGAT’):
On 9 October 2023, in a video statement addressed to Hamas and Gaza residents, published by COGAT’s official channel, Major General Ghassan Alian warned: “Hamas became ISIS and the citizens of Gaza are celebrating instead of being horrified. Human animals are dealt with accordingly. Israel has imposed a total blockade on Gaza, no electricity, no water, just damage.
You wanted hell, you will get hell”
Israeli Army Reservist Major General, former Head of the Israeli National Security
Council, and adviser to the Defence Minister: On 7 October 2023, Giora Eiland, describing the Israeli order to cut off water and electricity to Gaza, wrote in an online journal: “This is what Israel has begun to do — we cut the supply of energy, water and diesel to the Strip . . .
But it’s not enough. In order to make the siege effective, we have to prevent others from giving
assistance to Gaza . . . The people should be told that they have two choices; to stay and to
starve, or to leave. If Egypt and other countries prefer that these people will perish in Gaza, this
is their choice.” On the same day, he asserted in a national newspaper that “[w]hen you are
at war with another country you don't feed them, you don't provide them electricity or gas or water or anything else . . . A country can be attacked in a much broader way, to bring the
country to the brink of dysfunction. This is the necessary outcome of events” in Gaza.468 He has repeatedly asserted the benefits for Israel of the creation of a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, stating that “Israel has no interest in the Gaza Strip being rehabilitated and this is an important point that needs to be made clear to the Americans”, and that “[i]f we ever want to see the hostages alive, the only way is to create a severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza”.470 He has indicated that water should be targeted, noting that water in Gaza “comes from wells with salt water unfit for consumption. They have water treatment plants, Israel should hit those plants. When the entire world says we have gone insane and this is a humanitarian disaster — we will say, it’s not an end, it’s a means.”471 In a Times radio interview on 12 October 2023, he reiterated the army should:
“[C]reate such a huge pressure on Gaza, that Gaza will become an area where people
cannot live. People cannot live, until Hamas is destroyed, which means that Israel not
only stops to supply energy, diesel, water, food … as we did in the last twenty years …
but we should prevent any possible assistance by others, and to create in Gaza such a
terrible, unbearable situation, that can last weeks and months”.
Giora Eiland has repeatedly been given a media platform to call for Gaza to be made
uninhabitable, declaring “the State of Israel has no choice but to make Gaza a place that is
temporarily, or permanently, impossible to live in.” In an interview on 6 November 2023, he
suggested that, “if there is an intention for a military action at Shifa [Hospital], which I think is inescapable, I hope that the head of the CIA got an explanation of why this is necessary, and
why the US must ultimately back even an operation like this, even if there are thousands of bodies of civilians in the streets afterward.” Further he proposed that “Israel needs to create a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, compelling tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands to seek refuge in Egypt or the Gulf . . . Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist “Echoing the words of President Herzog, he has repeatedly underscored that there should be no distinction between Hamas combatants and Palestinian civilians, saying:
“Who are the ‘poor’ women of Gaza? They are all the mothers, sisters or wives of Hamas
murderers. On the one hand, they are part of the infrastructure that supports the
organization, and on the other hand, if they experience a humanitarian disaster, then it
can be assumed that some of the Hamas fighters and the more junior commanders will
begin to understand that the war is futile . . . The international community warns us of a
humanitarian disaster in Gaza and of severe epidemics. We must not shy away from this,
as difficult as that may be. After all, severe epidemics in the south of the Gaza Strip will
bring victory closer . . . It is precisely its civil collapse that will bring the end of the war
closer. When senior Israeli figures say in the media ‘It's either us or them’ we should
clarify the question of who is ‘them’. ‘They’ are not only Hamas fighters with weapons,
but also all the ‘civilian’ officials, including hospital administrators and school
administrators, and also the entire Gaza population who enthusiastically supported
Hamas and cheered on its atrocities on October 7th.”
For these statements many officials risk an incrimination for war crimes. Moreover even the press siding the Israel cause found all these declarations stupid and unproductive to cause of Israel a
Are you aware of Amelek story in the bible?
May God helps the Palestinians and Israeli to live in peace.
Individuals whether they are in government or out of government being quoted do not represent government policy. Look no further than our own Congress and statements made by extreme left and extreme right politicians.
Yes, the atrocities on October 7 were not committed by normal human beings. They were committed by a barbaric form of animal. I think that’s too generous a description as no other animals in the animal Kingdom would do this to one of their own.
This war could have stopped at any time in the past seven months or can in the next seven minutes – if Hamas leaders surrender and release all hostages. Until then, Israel must finish the job. And, if Hamas continues to use its own civilians as human shields, a war crime, any casualties are on Hamas. Not Israel.
I’m not going to reply to each of your inane comments. They all fall under the category of “oh yeah, prove it“, the kind of argument you hear a second grader make. If I say, “the sky is blue“, your answer would be “oh yeah, prove it.“ Go read a book or objective news source and learn something.
Who knew that Professor Mearsheimer, as despicable as he is, would attract so many dolts as his readers.
- *The Crooked Timber of Democracy in Israel* by Dahlia Scheindlin,
- *Palestine in Israeli School Books* by Nurit Peled-Elhanan, and
- *The ABC of the OTP* by Michael Sfard.
Additionally, I've been actively reading "Haaretz."
To be honest, I was somewhat disappointed by the Israeli government's integration policies towards the Palestinians.
Therefore, I'm not surprised by the attacks from Hamas, especially considering that this organization grew with the tacit consent of the Israeli government to thwart a diplomatic resolution to the conflict.
As an Italian, I feel we owe a debt to the Jewish community because of our historical collaboration with the Nazis. As a friend, I point out what I perceive as errors, without condemning the Jewish people, fully recognizing their history of pogroms and discrimination.
I earnestly hope for peace for both Jews and Palestinians.
Thanks for your note. Benny Morris was recently interviewed by Piers Morgan, alongside that horrible turd Norman Finklestein. I suggest you watch his recent comments (fast forward through Finklestein) to get a current understanding of his thinking.
There have been 5 formal peace negotiations and numerous informal ones to provide the Palestinians with their own state alongside Israel. ALL have been rejected by the Palestinians. What is clear now is the reason: they do not want their own state -- they want Israel as their's. That is why they've perpetuated this myth after 75 years that they are "refugees", literally a made-up definition, as descendents of refugees are NOT refugees themselves.
Your reading list is one-sided. To offer you a broader understanding, I'd highly recommend Einat Wilf's excellent book: https://a.co/d/h5tsfse
Not only the truth, but verified by many independent agencies. Apparently you only use Hamas as your source of information. Are you really that pathetic and stupid?
> What an asshole for calling Israel 'murderous' when they are the ones who suffered the murder of 1200 people at the hands of a barbaric terrorist organization and mob.
This does not render subsequent murder on behalf of Israelis to be nonexistent....though, it may appear that way to you ("Perception is Reality").
> Israel defending itself against this happening again is what every country in the world would do if faced with something so horrific.
You are not actually omniscient,
> This has nothing to do with an Israel lobby.
Please reveal how you determined this to be true (or did you determine it to be true)?
> The recent Harris-Harvard poll showed 80% of Americans support Israel in this fight.
This could be affected by decades of Israel Public Relations spending....have you investigated the millions of dollars of budget they have across various organizations? Israel is arguably THE best propagandist out there, at least based on the size of their country versus their sophistication and volume of propaganda.
> But, not you — you keep up your decades-long animus toward Israel and Jews. Shame on you…
Shame on you for mind reading - it is rude, and makes you look silly.
Have you any more tall tales to tell us today, Human?
Do you always slant your reasoning with Anti Israel bias ofcourse lobby groups are allowed in USA. We stand with Israel - this is my free speech against bias lies against Israel
Beyond that the legislation is a draconian attack on freedom of speech whatever your political views are.
Thank you for your honesty! So grateful that your voice of intelligence, integrity, and truth can be heard!
I agree 100%. But what’s more important is that the excellent advice that John has been giving somehow needs to be acted upon. It needs to be effectively acted upon because not acting upon it amounts to what should be considered to be a cardinal sin.
• Israel is doing enormous damage to its image in the US and globally. How anyone in Israel can think that:
(i) killing Palestinians by the tens of thousands, and displacing millions of Palistinains is somehow acceptable, or that it can justify their actions by claiming Hamas is causing it thru use if human shields, or
(ii) continuing a brutal 50-plus year military occupation, and running an obvious defacto aparthied state, for which neither has any end in sight (save ethnic cleansing) is somehow acceptable.
• Israel has a lot of reality to keep out of headlines.
Absolutely false accusations you have your Are blatantly false with facts
Tropes - genocide - apartheid and false accusation- just lazy name throwing bigot
That's funny. I figured you would've said why what I said was "false" — why it's not true that Israel is...
1| killing Palestinians by the thousands,
2| has a 50+ year brutal military occupation, and
3| running a defacto aparthied state.
• Well, judging from your comment, writing is not your strength.
Fact 1: on Oct 7th, terrorists burned, raped, and murdered hundreds of Jewish women and children.
Fact 2: There is no excuse for mutilation, rape, and murder.
Fact 3: No Arab country wants Gazans.
Fact 4: Egypt refused to take back Gaza after peace accords were signed.
Fact 5: Gaza was not under Israeli occupation on Oct 7th
Fact 6: It was a stupid and most likely unconstitutional legistration by congress
Fact 7: Finding excuses to support a terrorist organization like hamas is the reason why middle east is a mess
1. There is no evidence of rape. You also conveniently leave out the fact that many of the Israelis burned to crisp that day were by the Israeli forces themselves, because of the Hannibal directive.
2. Correct. There is no excuse. And the Israelis have now murdered, mutilated, tortured over 34,000 Gazans. 14,000 children which is a low estimate. There is no excuse, these are considered war crimes by the majority of the rest of the world.
3. Slightly incorrect. No Arab world leaders want Gazans. Many citizens of the Arab world are livid because of the obvious ethnic cleansing/genocide going on which you never admit to here, and want something done now by the heinous mass killings by IDF sadists.
4. Egypt has threatened to cancel the peace accords if Israel plans to take over the Southern border. Which you omit here. Did you know that everything coming out of the mouth of most corrupt Israeli officials, and guys like you monkey.works are either complete lies, half lies, or lies by omission? Why should anybody take you or the rest of the genocidal maniacs you support seriously?
5. Everything going in and out of Gaza was completely controlled by the Israelis. This is a lie by definition since Gazans were restricted by the types of food they ate - what water they could drink, the amount of electricity they received and who the Israelis got to freely imprison (without due process) or even shoot while protesting near the wall. Your lie here and it is a lie, is that Gaza isn't completely surrounded by the Israelis and are nothing more than prisoners in an open air prison.
6. you misspelled legislation
7. No, the reason why the middle east is a mess is because of a rogue criminal state called Israel which is right now committing human genocide - has already slaughter 14,000+ children trapped in a small parcel of land, and you're defending that.
Maybe you should watch the documentary just put out by Sheryl Sandberg. Clearly, there was rape. First hand evidence.
Yeah - I'm sure Israel never lies about anything right? You and the Israelis are completely credible.
I’m not lying. I’m viewing a documentary that provides irrefutable first hand evidence. What do you have to prove these women are lying? They have blood spilled from their groin, in pictures.
"I’m not lying."
Sure. Israelis always tell the truth.
No. I did not say that. You probably think the Nazis in Germany were falsely accused of the holocaust as well.
See: Max Blumenthal, editor of The Grayzone's reporting in SCHEERPOST regarding this subject. It is entitled: "Max Blumenthal: NYT Pulls Hamas Rape Podcast Over Internal Conflict on Shoddy Reporting" (February 4, 2024)
Is this documentary available online?
Can you note any specific timestamps that you consider to be smoking-gun level proof so I can view the same clips and see if I agree with your perception?
A blatant lie and false accusation of genocide against Israel is absolutely false NOT even the anti Israel ICJ court ruled it was. Anyone that ridiculously and falsely accuses Israel of committing genocide are blatantly disinformation hacks consisting of either anti Israel Islamists or pro Hamas supporters or radical left Marxists activists who are also vile anti Israel and or misinformed useful idiots and ignorant or bigots. If there was no Israel the Islamic Arab Middle East World would not magically have better human rights, women’s rights, gay rights or no civil wars like Yemen and Syria and bankrupt Lebanon etc
There was absolutely butchery and rape the evidence is overwhelming and contemporaneous please don’t be so blatantly in denial or blatant liar. Funny how Egypt threatened Israel Re : the peace accord if Israel went into Rafah. As soon as Israel rightly did go into Rafah it found Hamas terror tunnels leading into Egypt.so it clearly indicates Egypt turned a blind eye and blatantly allowed lethal weapons into Gaza for Hamas for years to fire into Israel . Egypt locked its borders but as soon it allowed some aid in it took massive kickback and extorted bribes from to allow aid into Gaza from Egypt.
Thank you for the list of personal opinions stated as if they were facts.
This has been (and continues to be) a very successful propaganda technique for Israel and her supporters throughout the years, but some of us can see through it.
Does it make you feel silly when someone point blank tells you that they can see through your untruths?
Do you see your through your pathetic denial of facts by deluding your brain to say they are just opinions or not true. By the way many credible opinions are based on facts for if they weren’t then the opinions would be worthless. ( like yours )
You are deluded
https://x.com/intifada/status/1786379829299888592
Thoughtful analysis of the "facts" of Israel military.
Agree Hamas Oct 7 was undeniably horrific and blatant including Heads being hacked off and multiple savage and violent rapes by Hamas and Islamic jihad yet some people on here are in denial and shockingly vile anti Israel Marxists lefties or anti Semites or pro Hamas apologists or Islamists
Mr Mearsheimer. You have a real problem on this comments page. You have people saying that rape of Israeli women by Hamas did not occur on October 7. If you really want this kind of thing to be your legacy, after a prolific career, do nothing about it.
This is pretty weak rhetoric.
Could you reference this poll w a link since it flies in the face of most current polling and the 1200 figure of which even the Israeli military has said was a over estimate?
According to a new Harvard CAPS Harris poll conducted on April 24-25, 2024:
80% of Americans support Israel in its war with Hamas.
72% think Israel should move forward with an operation in Rafah to finish the war.
67% think Israel is trying to avoid civilian casualties in the fighting.
61% support a ceasefire only after the release of all hostages and Hamas is removed from power.
80% think Iran is a danger to the U.S. and that it must be stopped from having nuclear weapons.
Only 35% believe it is possible to negotiate a deal with Iran to stop it from obtaining nuclear weapons.
And…
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths
This article is from a right-wing news outlet w a clear agenda to support Israel w unsubstantiated claims from highly discredit Zaka, in the article the Israel military claims slightly less than 700 civilians were killed and not how they were killed and by whom. It's is already known that Israei military is not credible and their claims need to be verified by independent sources which they make extremely difficult. In short, your argument is weak, I would refer you to prof Finkelstein on this issue , he has a sub stack.
What number do you think is accurate? Let’s say it was 500 people or 300 people. What number is acceptable to you?
Finkelstein is a quack, derided by everyone who has any credibility. If he is your source of information, that explains a lot.
> Finkelstein is a quack, derided by everyone who has any credibility.
How did you perform this calculation, Totally Rational Human?
Yes it does. Your not credible at best.
Oh really? And what is your source for that despicable lie? Terrorists used GoPro cameras to document their own atrocities because they were so proud of them.
> And what is your source for that despicable lie?
You calling it a lie is an implicit assertion that you know the truth of the matter.
How could you possibly know that?
You are talking about one of the Israeli controlled Universities, so NOT a reliable poll.
Consider what we know about the general intelligence levels of the American public.
Thanks for link
A new vector in the domestic political divide and conquer fear-control-signal war-time soup: Via Scott Galloway ( a dilbert cartoonist lookalike from NYU) and David Rubinstein (carlyle)....the idea is being "seeded" on the propaganda wires: "The campus protests are about young people seeing no future, and so Seniors will soon see Social Security/Medicare being taken away given the demographic decline that's coming". Third rail what third rail? Fear and control. Potent.
Impressive how quickly their assets jumped on this substack comment section. Must be right over the target...
And how tone deaf they are to anyone who disagrees with their propaganda.
@jamenta
AIPAC bots/Unit 8200 sock puppet battalion AIs aren't tone deaf, they are just scripts. Since the flak being thrown up on (unmoderated & no entry fee to post) comment sections is mostly automated, every second you spend arguing with their fake personae (not actual, individual people with minds to be educated) is a tactical victory for cyber Zionism, wearing out their meat sack opponents, distracting and wasting their resources.
You got cancelled and I downloaded Substack and registered myself for a paid subscription! We need good people like Chris in this world 😍🙌
Israel is undermining our democratic process via AIPAC. Our leaders place our national security at risk with continued military support of Israel and raid our treasury to pay for Israel’s war and genocide. And now Israel is tearing apart our constitutional rights. I simply cannot wrap my mind around the fact that Americans are not marching in the tens of millions on DC right now and demanding the resignation of every single politician from the White House down who has essentially given a foreign government control of our country and in doing so obliterated our national sovereignty. This is treasonous.
Brilliant stuff.
I'll say, everything hangs on now whether Elon Musk keeps his word and reinstates Nick Fuentes' X/Twitter account.
I continue to be intrigued by the argument that free speech is a “core value” of the United States.
Were this the case, the entire censorship regime of Covid could not have existed as an overwhelming majority of Americans not only would have opposed it, but would have gathered tar & feathers for its instigators and propagators.
My political memory extends to pre-1968. The left has never - at least since Skokie and an ACLU that no longer exists - believed in free speech. The passage of this attack on the First Amendment shows that the right no longer does, either. 1A has joined 2A, 4A, 6A, 8A, 9A and 10A as uncomfortable infringements on the usurpation by the Feds of power not delegated to the Feds. It also shows that governors don’t care, and that over half of the franchise rejects free speech, as well.
no criticism, no divestment, send checks, send weapons, keep calm with propaganda ON.
LLM-derived breakdowns and summaries of that interview with Prof. John Mearsheimer:
https://open.substack.com/pub/complexiathesinker/p/llm-over-prof-john-mearsheimer-genocide
You should expand your analysis to the Humans suffering from Allism Spectrum Disorder in these comments sections.
What an asshole for calling Israel 'murderous' when they are the ones who suffered the murder of 1200 people at the hands of a barbaric terrorist organization and mob. Israel defending itself against this happening again is what every country in the world would do if faced with something so horrific.
This has nothing to do with an Israel lobby. The recent Harris-Harvard poll showed 80% of Americans support Israel in this fight.
But, not you — you keep up your decades-long animus toward Israel and Jews. Shame on you…
Oh, so 14,000+ children just massacred on a small parcel of land isn't murderous? Israelis call the Palestinians "animals" - similar to what the Nazi Germans did to those they mass murdered as well. Just because you call the Gazan's subhuman and animals - doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees with your despicable characterization - nor is the rest of the world going along with your crimes against humanity, the bombing of all the hospitals in Gaza, the murdering of 34,000 unarmed civilians including children - and pretending you had to do it. No - you didn't have to do it - and you have become the very barbaric terrorist organization you condemn. The Israelis are even worse mass murderers of innocents than the Palestinians ever were.
What is your reference for Israelis calling Palestinians “animals“?
Unlike barbaric Hamas and other Palestinian terror organizations who specifically target innocent people, Israel tries to avoid civilian casualties. But Hamas intentionally hides behind civilians. These despicable animals, and in this case the word is too generous a term, use hospitals, mosques, and schools to hide their weapons and terrorists.
The only good Hamas is a dead Hamas. Only then will innocent civilian Palestinians have a chance to live in peace.
"Israel tries to avoid civilian casualties."
No it doesn't. This is a lie. You're lying here and then want me to answer your question and engage with your bs, when you are being intellectually dishonest. You want respect but you have no respect for me with what is an obvious lie - an insult to my intelligence and the rest of the world's intelligence. Take a hike.
Yes, they do. If Israel wanted to have ended this war in one hour, they easily could have and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Instead, they go house to house trying to root out the terrorists and put their own young soldiers at risk. Blame Hamas for every civilian death.
You are being deliberately intellectually dishonest here and no longer deserve my time or personal effort to refute your defense of Israel's genocidal actions. Hopefully, Netanyahu and the rest of the Hitler like leaders in Israel will face war crime trials by the Hague, once they have implemented their final solution against the Palestinians. Which appears like they will succeed in doing. So congratulations on your sadistic mass murder of Palestinians.
The only intentional mass murder attempt was by Hamas. And then, within days of the atrocity on October 7, the spokesperson for Hamas said they will do more and more attacks like October 7 until they are successful.
Congratulations on being a stooge and dupe for these terrorists. Shame on you.
> Instead, they...
It is literally not possible for you to possess accurate and comprehensive knowledge of what actually happens on the ground, or what orders are.
Are you engaging in misinformation deliberately, or accidentally?
I will copy and paste some expressions of genocidal intent from Israel officials from South Africa application to ICJ:
Prime Minister of Israel: On 7 October 2023, in a televised address by the Government
Press Office, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promised to “operate forcefully
everywhere”. On 13 October 2023, he confirmed that “[w]e are striking our enemies with unprecedented might . . .”.
On 15 October 2023, when Israeli airstrikes had already killed over 2,670 Palestinians, including 724 children, the Prime Minister stated that Israeli soldiers “understand the scope of the mission” and stand ready “to defeat the bloodthirsty monsters who have risen against [Israel] to destroy us”.On 16 October 2023, in a formal address to the Israeli Knesset, he described situation as “a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle”,
a dehumanising theme to which he returned on various occasions, including: on 3 November 2023, in a letter to Israeli soldiers and officers also published on the platform ‘X’ (formerly Twitter); the letter asserted that: “[t]his is the war between the sons of light and the sons of darkness. We will not let up on our mission until the light overcomes the darkness — the good will defeat the extreme evil that threatens us and the entire world.” The Israeli Prime Minister also returned to the theme inhis ‘Christmas message’, stating: “we’re facing monsters, monsters who murdered children in
front of their parents . . . This is a battle not only of Israel against these barbarians, it’s a battle of civilization against barbarism”. On 28 October 2023, as Israeli forces prepared their land invasion of Gaza, the Prime Minister invoked the Biblical story of the total destruction of Amelek by the Israelites, stating: “you must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember”. The Prime Minister referred again to Amalek in the letter sent on 3 November 2023 to Israeli soldiers and officers. The relevant biblical passage reads as follows: “Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.
President of Israel: On 12 October 2023, President Isaac Herzog made clear that Israel
was not distinguishing between militants and civilians in Gaza, stating in a press conference to foreign media — in relation Palestinians in Gaza, over one million of whom are children: “It’s an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware not involved. It’s absolutely not true. … and we will fight until we break their backbone.” On 15 October 2023, echoing the words of Prime Minister Netanyahu, the President told foreign media that “we will uproot evil so that there will be good for the entire region and the world.”
Israeli Minister of Energy and Infrastructure: ‘Tweeting’ on 13 October 2023, Israel
Katz stated: “All the civilian population in Gaza is ordered to leave immediately. We will win.
They will not receive a drop of water or a single battery until they leave the world.”457 On 12
October 2023, he ‘tweeted’: “Humanitarian aid to Gaza? No electrical switch will be turned on,
no water hydrant will be opened and no fuel truck will enter until the Israeli abductees are
returned home. Humanitarianism for humanitarianism. And no one will preach us morality.”458
Israeli Minister of Finance: On 8 October 2023, Bezalel Smotrich stated at a meeting
of the Israeli Cabinet that “[w]e need to deal a blow that hasn’t been seen in 50 years and take
down Gaza.”
Israeli Minister of Heritage: On 1 November 2023, Amichai Eliyahu posted on
Facebook: “The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever. Everything is blown up and
flattened, simply a pleasure for the eyes … We must talk about the day after. In my mind, we
will hand over lots to all those who fought for Gaza over the years and to those evicted from
Gush Katif” [a former Israeli settlement].4He later argued against humanitarian aid as “[w]e
wouldn’t hand the Nazis humanitarian aid”, and “there is no such thing as uninvolved civilians
in Gaza”. He also posited a nuclear attack on the Gaza Strip.
Israeli Army Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (‘COGAT’):
On 9 October 2023, in a video statement addressed to Hamas and Gaza residents, published by COGAT’s official channel, Major General Ghassan Alian warned: “Hamas became ISIS and the citizens of Gaza are celebrating instead of being horrified. Human animals are dealt with accordingly. Israel has imposed a total blockade on Gaza, no electricity, no water, just damage.
You wanted hell, you will get hell”
Israeli Army Reservist Major General, former Head of the Israeli National Security
Council, and adviser to the Defence Minister: On 7 October 2023, Giora Eiland, describing the Israeli order to cut off water and electricity to Gaza, wrote in an online journal: “This is what Israel has begun to do — we cut the supply of energy, water and diesel to the Strip . . .
But it’s not enough. In order to make the siege effective, we have to prevent others from giving
assistance to Gaza . . . The people should be told that they have two choices; to stay and to
starve, or to leave. If Egypt and other countries prefer that these people will perish in Gaza, this
is their choice.” On the same day, he asserted in a national newspaper that “[w]hen you are
at war with another country you don't feed them, you don't provide them electricity or gas or water or anything else . . . A country can be attacked in a much broader way, to bring the
country to the brink of dysfunction. This is the necessary outcome of events” in Gaza.468 He has repeatedly asserted the benefits for Israel of the creation of a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, stating that “Israel has no interest in the Gaza Strip being rehabilitated and this is an important point that needs to be made clear to the Americans”, and that “[i]f we ever want to see the hostages alive, the only way is to create a severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza”.470 He has indicated that water should be targeted, noting that water in Gaza “comes from wells with salt water unfit for consumption. They have water treatment plants, Israel should hit those plants. When the entire world says we have gone insane and this is a humanitarian disaster — we will say, it’s not an end, it’s a means.”471 In a Times radio interview on 12 October 2023, he reiterated the army should:
“[C]reate such a huge pressure on Gaza, that Gaza will become an area where people
cannot live. People cannot live, until Hamas is destroyed, which means that Israel not
only stops to supply energy, diesel, water, food … as we did in the last twenty years …
but we should prevent any possible assistance by others, and to create in Gaza such a
terrible, unbearable situation, that can last weeks and months”.
Giora Eiland has repeatedly been given a media platform to call for Gaza to be made
uninhabitable, declaring “the State of Israel has no choice but to make Gaza a place that is
temporarily, or permanently, impossible to live in.” In an interview on 6 November 2023, he
suggested that, “if there is an intention for a military action at Shifa [Hospital], which I think is inescapable, I hope that the head of the CIA got an explanation of why this is necessary, and
why the US must ultimately back even an operation like this, even if there are thousands of bodies of civilians in the streets afterward.” Further he proposed that “Israel needs to create a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, compelling tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands to seek refuge in Egypt or the Gulf . . . Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist “Echoing the words of President Herzog, he has repeatedly underscored that there should be no distinction between Hamas combatants and Palestinian civilians, saying:
“Who are the ‘poor’ women of Gaza? They are all the mothers, sisters or wives of Hamas
murderers. On the one hand, they are part of the infrastructure that supports the
organization, and on the other hand, if they experience a humanitarian disaster, then it
can be assumed that some of the Hamas fighters and the more junior commanders will
begin to understand that the war is futile . . . The international community warns us of a
humanitarian disaster in Gaza and of severe epidemics. We must not shy away from this,
as difficult as that may be. After all, severe epidemics in the south of the Gaza Strip will
bring victory closer . . . It is precisely its civil collapse that will bring the end of the war
closer. When senior Israeli figures say in the media ‘It's either us or them’ we should
clarify the question of who is ‘them’. ‘They’ are not only Hamas fighters with weapons,
but also all the ‘civilian’ officials, including hospital administrators and school
administrators, and also the entire Gaza population who enthusiastically supported
Hamas and cheered on its atrocities on October 7th.”
For these statements many officials risk an incrimination for war crimes. Moreover even the press siding the Israel cause found all these declarations stupid and unproductive to cause of Israel a
Are you aware of Amelek story in the bible?
May God helps the Palestinians and Israeli to live in peace.
Individuals whether they are in government or out of government being quoted do not represent government policy. Look no further than our own Congress and statements made by extreme left and extreme right politicians.
Yes, the atrocities on October 7 were not committed by normal human beings. They were committed by a barbaric form of animal. I think that’s too generous a description as no other animals in the animal Kingdom would do this to one of their own.
This war could have stopped at any time in the past seven months or can in the next seven minutes – if Hamas leaders surrender and release all hostages. Until then, Israel must finish the job. And, if Hamas continues to use its own civilians as human shields, a war crime, any casualties are on Hamas. Not Israel.
> Individuals whether they are in government or out of government being quoted do not represent government policy.
Your various opinions about reality do not accurately represent reality itself.
> I think that’s too generous a description as no other animals in the animal Kingdom would do this to one of their own.
It is also a hallucination.
Sir: I don't mean to be rude, but have you been diagnosed with Allism before, or ever had testing done?
I’m not going to reply to each of your inane comments. They all fall under the category of “oh yeah, prove it“, the kind of argument you hear a second grader make. If I say, “the sky is blue“, your answer would be “oh yeah, prove it.“ Go read a book or objective news source and learn something.
Who knew that Professor Mearsheimer, as despicable as he is, would attract so many dolts as his readers.
Dear Friend,
I've been reading:
- *Righteous Victims* by Benny Morris,
- *Ethnocrazy* by Yiftchel Oren,
- *The Crooked Timber of Democracy in Israel* by Dahlia Scheindlin,
- *Palestine in Israeli School Books* by Nurit Peled-Elhanan, and
- *The ABC of the OTP* by Michael Sfard.
Additionally, I've been actively reading "Haaretz."
To be honest, I was somewhat disappointed by the Israeli government's integration policies towards the Palestinians.
Therefore, I'm not surprised by the attacks from Hamas, especially considering that this organization grew with the tacit consent of the Israeli government to thwart a diplomatic resolution to the conflict.
As an Italian, I feel we owe a debt to the Jewish community because of our historical collaboration with the Nazis. As a friend, I point out what I perceive as errors, without condemning the Jewish people, fully recognizing their history of pogroms and discrimination.
I earnestly hope for peace for both Jews and Palestinians.
Thanks for your note. Benny Morris was recently interviewed by Piers Morgan, alongside that horrible turd Norman Finklestein. I suggest you watch his recent comments (fast forward through Finklestein) to get a current understanding of his thinking.
There have been 5 formal peace negotiations and numerous informal ones to provide the Palestinians with their own state alongside Israel. ALL have been rejected by the Palestinians. What is clear now is the reason: they do not want their own state -- they want Israel as their's. That is why they've perpetuated this myth after 75 years that they are "refugees", literally a made-up definition, as descendents of refugees are NOT refugees themselves.
Your reading list is one-sided. To offer you a broader understanding, I'd highly recommend Einat Wilf's excellent book: https://a.co/d/h5tsfse
> Israel tries to avoid civilian casualties.
Please reveal how you determined this to be true. I suspect you made it up, or simply believe it but never bothered to wonder if it is actually true.
Richard. I guess you haven't seen the pictures?
One barely functioning hospital/schools decimated.......who the hell attacks hospitals?
Israel attacks hospitals.
The United States Attacks hospitals.
Yes.
Who the hell uses hospitals to store weapons and as a base for terrorists?
Another bald faced lie. You are despicable. Have you no shame?
Not only the truth, but verified by many independent agencies. Apparently you only use Hamas as your source of information. Are you really that pathetic and stupid?
> What an asshole for calling Israel 'murderous' when they are the ones who suffered the murder of 1200 people at the hands of a barbaric terrorist organization and mob.
This does not render subsequent murder on behalf of Israelis to be nonexistent....though, it may appear that way to you ("Perception is Reality").
> Israel defending itself against this happening again is what every country in the world would do if faced with something so horrific.
You are not actually omniscient,
> This has nothing to do with an Israel lobby.
Please reveal how you determined this to be true (or did you determine it to be true)?
> The recent Harris-Harvard poll showed 80% of Americans support Israel in this fight.
This could be affected by decades of Israel Public Relations spending....have you investigated the millions of dollars of budget they have across various organizations? Israel is arguably THE best propagandist out there, at least based on the size of their country versus their sophistication and volume of propaganda.
> But, not you — you keep up your decades-long animus toward Israel and Jews. Shame on you…
Shame on you for mind reading - it is rude, and makes you look silly.
Have you any more tall tales to tell us today, Human?
Do you always slant your reasoning with Anti Israel bias ofcourse lobby groups are allowed in USA. We stand with Israel - this is my free speech against bias lies against Israel