You have completely missed the point if you think Russia wanted to have to deal with any of this war. They certainly don't want to own all of Ukraine because then they have to go bankrupt trying to maintain it. They learned that lesson in the USSR days. They don't want to have to keep parts of Ukraine that aren't ethnic Russian and that …
You have completely missed the point if you think Russia wanted to have to deal with any of this war. They certainly don't want to own all of Ukraine because then they have to go bankrupt trying to maintain it. They learned that lesson in the USSR days. They don't want to have to keep parts of Ukraine that aren't ethnic Russian and that don't want to be part of Russia.
You missed the whole point about what they were trying to negotiate for at Minsk and asked to negotiate in Dec 2021, and again in March 2022, which was a neutral NON NATO non hostile state on their border which if it had been allowed to stay that way, Russia wouldn't be involved in any sort of current conflict.
And if Ukraine would have been allowed to complete the negotiations in spring 2022 before the United States and the UK interfered, again there wouldn't be any of this military operation going on.
So for such a numbskull to be positing that Russia wanted to be stuck in this slogging effort to protect their border security is sheer ignorance.
The only reason Russia now has built up their military is that we would not negotiate in December 2021 or March 2022. They didn't go into any of this with the sort of military that was big enough to handle and ongoing war and certainly not big enough to take over all of Ukraine.
They were forced into this by our intransigence and meddling and our refusal to allow us or Ukraine to negotiate with them about their border security. For more about how we interfered in negotiations, please listen to Glenn Greenwald's Rumble interview with Jeffrey Sachs May 15 in the 21 minutes to 50 minutes time period.
Russia didn't even want to have to build up its military because that is very costly. It was not on a path to do that until Biden started his strategic security agreement to put Ukraine on a path to NATO membership in fall 2021, which would have made it not neutral and we were already causing havoc over there since 2014 with our coup.
It is the US that wants to control all of Ukraine. If the neocons Biden/Nuland had not meddled in 2014 and again in 2021, Russia wouldn't have needed to pursue security protection of their border from potential strikes from future ukrainian NATO bases within striking distance of Moscow. To us it's just a game.
To Russia it is an existential threat, especially with our arming neo-Nazi militias after their history losing 22 million people to the Nazis in WW2.
you are still calling this criminal invasion a military operation. you forgot putin's complete title: special military operation, don't make mistakes when you justify putin with his own logic. words are important.
yes, yes, yes, putin was forced into this criminal invasion. just like the school yard bully is forced to attack the little guy, he doesn't want to but the sandwhich or the money that the little boy has made him do it.
i guess the good putin was tempted by the devil in the form of ukrainians, or the US. these things happen.
You have completely missed the point if you think Russia wanted to have to deal with any of this war. They certainly don't want to own all of Ukraine because then they have to go bankrupt trying to maintain it. They learned that lesson in the USSR days. They don't want to have to keep parts of Ukraine that aren't ethnic Russian and that don't want to be part of Russia.
You missed the whole point about what they were trying to negotiate for at Minsk and asked to negotiate in Dec 2021, and again in March 2022, which was a neutral NON NATO non hostile state on their border which if it had been allowed to stay that way, Russia wouldn't be involved in any sort of current conflict.
And if Ukraine would have been allowed to complete the negotiations in spring 2022 before the United States and the UK interfered, again there wouldn't be any of this military operation going on.
So for such a numbskull to be positing that Russia wanted to be stuck in this slogging effort to protect their border security is sheer ignorance.
The only reason Russia now has built up their military is that we would not negotiate in December 2021 or March 2022. They didn't go into any of this with the sort of military that was big enough to handle and ongoing war and certainly not big enough to take over all of Ukraine.
They were forced into this by our intransigence and meddling and our refusal to allow us or Ukraine to negotiate with them about their border security. For more about how we interfered in negotiations, please listen to Glenn Greenwald's Rumble interview with Jeffrey Sachs May 15 in the 21 minutes to 50 minutes time period.
Russia didn't even want to have to build up its military because that is very costly. It was not on a path to do that until Biden started his strategic security agreement to put Ukraine on a path to NATO membership in fall 2021, which would have made it not neutral and we were already causing havoc over there since 2014 with our coup.
It is the US that wants to control all of Ukraine. If the neocons Biden/Nuland had not meddled in 2014 and again in 2021, Russia wouldn't have needed to pursue security protection of their border from potential strikes from future ukrainian NATO bases within striking distance of Moscow. To us it's just a game.
To Russia it is an existential threat, especially with our arming neo-Nazi militias after their history losing 22 million people to the Nazis in WW2.
you are still calling this criminal invasion a military operation. you forgot putin's complete title: special military operation, don't make mistakes when you justify putin with his own logic. words are important.
yes, yes, yes, putin was forced into this criminal invasion. just like the school yard bully is forced to attack the little guy, he doesn't want to but the sandwhich or the money that the little boy has made him do it.
i guess the good putin was tempted by the devil in the form of ukrainians, or the US. these things happen.