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This is true of the Ukraine war, and it was true of both Iraq/Us wars, among many others. In the words of Russian foreign Minister Yevgeny Primakov, who was asked by Hussein, in desperation, to intervene and negotiate with Bush and Thatcher. He was rebuffed, concluding: “They want war”.

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they would have lost all of ukraine. but that's fine for meershimer and his fans

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Exactly, they = CIA would have lost all of Ukraine. Ukrainian citizens would have gotten peace, prosperity a chance to develop as a bridge between EU and Russia, and China. As an independent country, recognized by neighboring EU and Russia.

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