Tuning in to the Judge and his guests daily for years now. Highly interesting conversations. I wonder which country is more corrupt, Ukraine or the USA.
Bureaucracy means corruption. In Romania we have a lot of both. Highest bureaucracy in EU, highest inflation, highest corruption and the list can continue like this. Maybe the libertarians are right.
If this is war is to serve the federalization of Europe, which I believe is the case here, then Macron is really preparing to send troops and Europe will be at war with Russia.
No one on Europe willing to die for federal European state. Eastern Europeans understand Russia will not attack NATO, unless attacked first. Macron has some professional soldiers, enough to start a fight, not enough for real war. Europeans have already given weapons, ammunition, money and it is not enough.
Europeans have money, some weapons, ammunition, but definitely do not have soldiers to send to die in a ear with Russia.
Helping Ukraine should not be the same with starting a war with Russia. If what is happening now is helping Ukrainians to do something in this war.
Based on what we see on the front it is clear that they don't have any chance to keep the territory or to gain back what they already lost (their objective I believe).
no, ukrainians didn't want neutrality, what you are calling neutrality, coming at this either as a russian or a russia supporter, ukrainians consider an illegitimate denial of their sovereignty. if they wanted to be neutered into a zombie colony of the russian empire they would have let the invasion take over their country. even more, the invasion would not have been necessary at all. so no, they want US missiles to protect them from the insatiable (and shameless) russian demand to increase their empire.
Ukrainian citizens never wanted war with Russia. Ukrainians wanted independence, in a sense being able to choose their future, and peace. Both was achievable with neutrality. Choosing NATO means choosing US missiles on Russian border, that is real life. Russians were willing to let go of Ukraine, Just do not accept US missiles on Russian border, don’t go into NATO, be neutral.
Dying for US right to put missiles on Russian border. All else could have been achieved through negotiations.
War will speed up the turn to the West in Ukraine, but it could have progressed peacefully. terrible tragedy
It does not make much sense to keep repeating same sentences, ideas, talking points that have led US to provoke Russian attack on Ukraine.
I understand this is American way, keep the same course, invest double energy, money, soldiers, as long as it takes to understand there is no way to victory, repeat, repeat, repeat.
And if it doesn’t work, definitely doesn’t work, leave in silence, never discuss it again.
What can be done now, if one wants to help Ukraine…
What could have been done differently if one really wanted to help Ukraine…
What was the realistically achievable goal for Ukraine in 2014?
if Ukraine accepted neutrality and made some agreement on Sevastopol, there would have been no war, hundreds of thousands young men would be alive, Ukraine would be able to go to EU.
mainly and nonstop, how creepy that the meershimer fans consider it just fine that russia invaded its neighbor because it wants that neighbor's land. they see no problem in that move. none. the problem is that there is corruption in ukraine. and the other problem is nato. always nato. never russia's demand to increase its empire. never russia's centuries of empire alive and growing. really creepy
US will in next months and years refuse to accept UN authority in matters of war and war crimes.
Illegal, invasion, aggression, unprovoked will become subjective opinions because US is not willing to accept responsibility for its own actions. The case of Israel being exposed as the worst perpetrator of illegal, aggressive actions will speed US up.
Of course it was George Bush, Dick Cheney and their foreign policy team that started it in 2008 by announcing that Ukraine and Georgis should be part of NATO. But in 2022, Scholz, Macron and even Johnson assured Putin that Ukraine would not be joining NATO anytime in the foreseeable future. So, Putin really has no excuse for his illegal invasion.
And if US explicitly refused negotiations on European security, that would formalize neutral status for Ukraine, Putin could have understood US refusal as a provocation, a casus belli, a reason for war.
what if ukraine doesn't want neutral status, which actually means, to be subservient to russia? what if ukraine wants to be part of the west? according to the meershimer fans they have no right to self-determination. if russia wants something russia gets it on a plate with nice silverware. served by meershimer personally
No point in just repeating ad nauseam US talking points, these ideas led Ukraine into war. The problem is, since Ukrainian men are getting depleted, and since Europe and US will not send their soldiers into war, that one would have to start talks, negotiations regarding common European security, or start WW3.
i know, ukrainians should have welcomed the russian invaders from day one. they know so many people like you don't care about ukraine's sovereignty, they know meershimer will keep the cute smirk on his face as they become russias's colony. and also, they have to know that they are the cause of ww3, the russians are not to blame in the meershimer scheme of things.
His only excuse could be if US was lying, promising one thing and doing the other. In that case, he would probably have demanded some kind of assurance that is firmer than promise, some kind of written agreement on European security, that could be negotiated between US, NATO and Russia.
I doubt that he would have gotten any written assurance from the US, but he could have got one from Macron or Scholz. However, Putin did not even try to negotiate. The problem is that Putin wants Ukraine to become into a Belarus. Nobody except Kyiv can guarantee that. I fact Putin wants to be surrounded by all Belaruses - so the Baltics are next after Ukraine. This has nothing to do with if they are members of NATO or not.
of course ukraine is not in on these negotiations. nice. what about just letting russia decide what it wants without any negotiations, why bother with negotiations. just accept russia's desires.
Desires of Ukrainian citizens who never wanted war with Russia. Ukrainians wanted independence, in a sense being able to choose your destiny, and peace. It was achievable with neutrality. Choosing NATO means choosing the US missiles on Russian border, that is real life. Russians were willing to let go of Ukraine, Just do not accept US missiles on Russian border. Dying for US right to put missiles on Russian border. All else could have been achieved through negotiations.
that's really good to hear, judging by the posters here judge and meershimer are taken very seriously here. who knows how many putin bots are here of course
This war is not about people lives, it is about ideas and power.
Tuning in to the Judge and his guests daily for years now. Highly interesting conversations. I wonder which country is more corrupt, Ukraine or the USA.
well, certainly it is not russia. no corruption in russia that's for sure
Bureaucracy means corruption. In Romania we have a lot of both. Highest bureaucracy in EU, highest inflation, highest corruption and the list can continue like this. Maybe the libertarians are right.
If this is war is to serve the federalization of Europe, which I believe is the case here, then Macron is really preparing to send troops and Europe will be at war with Russia.
No one on Europe willing to die for federal European state. Eastern Europeans understand Russia will not attack NATO, unless attacked first. Macron has some professional soldiers, enough to start a fight, not enough for real war. Europeans have already given weapons, ammunition, money and it is not enough.
Europeans have money, some weapons, ammunition, but definitely do not have soldiers to send to die in a ear with Russia.
I hope they will not, but, as citizens we need to monitor the situation and put pressure on politicians to avoid any war.
Hungary has already, clearly stated its position.
Helping Ukraine should not be the same with starting a war with Russia. If what is happening now is helping Ukrainians to do something in this war.
Based on what we see on the front it is clear that they don't have any chance to keep the territory or to gain back what they already lost (their objective I believe).
LLM-derived tabular, visual, and textual breakdowns and summaries of that discussion:
https://complexiathesinker.substack.com/p/llm-over-pro-john-mearsheimer-whowhat
Albert said it all in late 1948 - https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948/mode/1up?view=theater
I know this is a bit off topic but I was try to find the actual article the link below derived from.
http://www.thehypertexts.com/Albert%20Einstein%201948%20Letter%20New%20York%20Times%20Nakba.htm It does seem to explain the next article as well https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-south-africa-home-white-colonialists.
Oh well time to make a bunker I guess
Nsakun, basically you agree that war is being fought for and against US missiles on Russian border.
And victory is measured in how close to border of Russian Federation US missiles will be placed.
War would never have happened, if Ukraine had found a way to be safe and secure without US missiles on Russian border.
War could have ended in April 2022 if only Ukraine could have given up on US missiles on Russian border.
War can end now, today, if only Ukraine would refuse US missiles on Russian border.
The key point of war that has already taken half a million lives is
US missiles on Russian border.
no, ukrainians didn't want neutrality, what you are calling neutrality, coming at this either as a russian or a russia supporter, ukrainians consider an illegitimate denial of their sovereignty. if they wanted to be neutered into a zombie colony of the russian empire they would have let the invasion take over their country. even more, the invasion would not have been necessary at all. so no, they want US missiles to protect them from the insatiable (and shameless) russian demand to increase their empire.
Ukrainian citizens never wanted war with Russia. Ukrainians wanted independence, in a sense being able to choose their future, and peace. Both was achievable with neutrality. Choosing NATO means choosing US missiles on Russian border, that is real life. Russians were willing to let go of Ukraine, Just do not accept US missiles on Russian border, don’t go into NATO, be neutral.
Dying for US right to put missiles on Russian border. All else could have been achieved through negotiations.
War will speed up the turn to the West in Ukraine, but it could have progressed peacefully. terrible tragedy
It does not make much sense to keep repeating same sentences, ideas, talking points that have led US to provoke Russian attack on Ukraine.
I understand this is American way, keep the same course, invest double energy, money, soldiers, as long as it takes to understand there is no way to victory, repeat, repeat, repeat.
And if it doesn’t work, definitely doesn’t work, leave in silence, never discuss it again.
What can be done now, if one wants to help Ukraine…
What could have been done differently if one really wanted to help Ukraine…
What was the realistically achievable goal for Ukraine in 2014?
if Ukraine accepted neutrality and made some agreement on Sevastopol, there would have been no war, hundreds of thousands young men would be alive, Ukraine would be able to go to EU.
mainly and nonstop, how creepy that the meershimer fans consider it just fine that russia invaded its neighbor because it wants that neighbor's land. they see no problem in that move. none. the problem is that there is corruption in ukraine. and the other problem is nato. always nato. never russia's demand to increase its empire. never russia's centuries of empire alive and growing. really creepy
US will in next months and years refuse to accept UN authority in matters of war and war crimes.
Illegal, invasion, aggression, unprovoked will become subjective opinions because US is not willing to accept responsibility for its own actions. The case of Israel being exposed as the worst perpetrator of illegal, aggressive actions will speed US up.
Of course it was George Bush, Dick Cheney and their foreign policy team that started it in 2008 by announcing that Ukraine and Georgis should be part of NATO. But in 2022, Scholz, Macron and even Johnson assured Putin that Ukraine would not be joining NATO anytime in the foreseeable future. So, Putin really has no excuse for his illegal invasion.
And if US explicitly refused negotiations on European security, that would formalize neutral status for Ukraine, Putin could have understood US refusal as a provocation, a casus belli, a reason for war.
what if ukraine doesn't want neutral status, which actually means, to be subservient to russia? what if ukraine wants to be part of the west? according to the meershimer fans they have no right to self-determination. if russia wants something russia gets it on a plate with nice silverware. served by meershimer personally
No point in just repeating ad nauseam US talking points, these ideas led Ukraine into war. The problem is, since Ukrainian men are getting depleted, and since Europe and US will not send their soldiers into war, that one would have to start talks, negotiations regarding common European security, or start WW3.
i know, ukrainians should have welcomed the russian invaders from day one. they know so many people like you don't care about ukraine's sovereignty, they know meershimer will keep the cute smirk on his face as they become russias's colony. and also, they have to know that they are the cause of ww3, the russians are not to blame in the meershimer scheme of things.
His only excuse could be if US was lying, promising one thing and doing the other. In that case, he would probably have demanded some kind of assurance that is firmer than promise, some kind of written agreement on European security, that could be negotiated between US, NATO and Russia.
I doubt that he would have gotten any written assurance from the US, but he could have got one from Macron or Scholz. However, Putin did not even try to negotiate. The problem is that Putin wants Ukraine to become into a Belarus. Nobody except Kyiv can guarantee that. I fact Putin wants to be surrounded by all Belaruses - so the Baltics are next after Ukraine. This has nothing to do with if they are members of NATO or not.
of course ukraine is not in on these negotiations. nice. what about just letting russia decide what it wants without any negotiations, why bother with negotiations. just accept russia's desires.
Desires of Ukrainian citizens who never wanted war with Russia. Ukrainians wanted independence, in a sense being able to choose your destiny, and peace. It was achievable with neutrality. Choosing NATO means choosing the US missiles on Russian border, that is real life. Russians were willing to let go of Ukraine, Just do not accept US missiles on Russian border. Dying for US right to put missiles on Russian border. All else could have been achieved through negotiations.
Man you have GOT to get a better media strategy. NO ONE takes the Judge Seriously.
that's really good to hear, judging by the posters here judge and meershimer are taken very seriously here. who knows how many putin bots are here of course