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Margaret Fairchild's avatar

I watched the Munk debate last night, hoping that you would mop the floor with Nuland and Pompeo. I was disappointed. You had Nuland right there--why not speak up about her direct role in facilitating a coup against the elected president of Ukraine (Yanukovich)? Her conversation with Geoffrey Piatt in which the planned the new government? The fact that Nazi groups were involved with the coup?

Also, China is not a threat to the U.S. They may have a political system at odds with our beliefs, but that can change, and its not a threat to us. They are building, developing-infrastructure, industry, lifting millions out of poverty in China, helping Africa to develop. They're not interested in aggression. Taiwan has always been part of China, and their relations with Taiwan is their business, not ours. Even the head of the Kuomintang wants good relations with China.

We have been systematically destroying our country from within since JFK was murdered. We are our own worst enemy. The monster is here. In the CIA, the Military Industrial Complex, the Neocons.

It just seemed as if the debate was controlled. And Nuland and Pompeo are evil. They are shameless liars and warmongers.

Fran's avatar

How were you able to watch them, did you pay to see them? If Mearsheimer did let Nuland and Pompeo off the hook I too would be very disappointing.

Margaret Fairchild's avatar

Yes, I paid $25. He certainly didn't directly take her on for her role in the coup in Ukraine, although he addressed the fact that NATO on Russia's border was the cause for Putin's war on Ukraine.

The whole debate was too civilized. Pompeo and Nuland were disgusting. Mearsheimer and Walt could have been much sharper.

Anyhow, I think you could watch the recording of it now.

Fran's avatar
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I so despise the neocons, and Nuland who is married to Kagan who is wealthy and influential, and pushed for the war in Iraq. The link below is an article written by Robert Parry, who unfortunately died a few years later. I loved him and his political perspective. He really tells it like it is in this article when it comes to how destructive, Nuland can be. All the neocon were, and no doubt you know that her husband pushed the war in Iraq like the rest of them, and their mindset have given us a whole century of war.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/13/the-mess-that-nuland-made/

Any Person's avatar

Interestingly, Kagan's articles saying the US has lost against Iran may be an indication that the Rothschilds aren't willing to take the chance Iran is capable and willing to hammer Israel into total, irrevocable collapse. And that Russia and China will not hold Iran back this time.

Israel is a 100% Rothschild Project, from them buying up 125,000 acres of the best Palestinian land starting in the late 1800s, then funding the Zionist 'settlers' to occupy that land and oversee the Palestinian workers. Called Ethnic Cleansing. Then the Balfour Declaration, the resulting Nakba and UN Resolution 181. All leading to the current Genocide when Ethnic Cleansing didn't drive the Gazans out.

Add in that China sent Iran a pile of anti-ship missiles/drones that can sink a carrier with one hit. One quarter of the US fleet on the bottom in a few hours.

So now Trumpty Dumbdy is desperate to declare "Mission Accomplished" and try to reestablish the former status quo of US Gulf bases and economic hegemony over Gulf petroleum.

Ain't gonna happen. The US has been driven out of its bases and the Gulf state monarchies know would be suicidal to allow them back, or allow attacks from/fly-over their territories.

NuttyYahoo may be raging, but his Rothschild bosses apparently don't want 150 years of careful preparation to disappear in a few months. If the Iran debacle continues as it has, AIPAC may be finished, or at least having to play by the Foreign Entity rules.

Fran's avatar

I read about Kagan's change of heart and he and his wife certainly operated in neocon circles with a lot of authority, but my favorite person to hate, Netanyahu, has no such change of heart in regard to a fragmented Middle East which is the gift we gave him in our many ME wars. Iran, still alive puts a nail in his dream, and too bad not his coffin, of a greater Israel which is to become the lord and master of the Middle East. It's interesting that when I listen to liberal pundits on the subject one never gets the perspective that our Middle Eastern wars, already decided before we went into Afghanistan, are never really talked about, nor why the US fought those wars and for whom. The only one to speak with that degree of honesty was Jeffery Sachs on the talk show with Tucker Carlson, which he also references elsewhere, and of course those wars were fought for Israel, and all defined by Netanyahu as terrorist states.

David Latin's avatar

Agree with you. But China it seems has a better form of government than the US: theirs actually has vested interests in working for the people in China, while the US government's vested interests are in supporting 🇮🇱 (a country that certainly had a vested interest in murdering JFK, who adamantly denied them Nuclear weapons!).

Bringing 800M people out of poverty over the years, the progress of China is unparalleled in history I believe. When I was there in 2006, it was very underdeveloped, not even one ATM I could use, yet the people were the kindest and most wonderful I could have imagined!!!

So is this why the US wants to destroy China?

Without anything better in the world to compare, the US suddenly becomes wonderful again 🤪

David Latin's avatar

And WHAT is the case against Iran?

Iran has done absolutely nothing to warrant any kind of attack. The most it has done is to support Liberation organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas, who are the only ones it seems struggling to stop Israel's tyrrany and mass murder of civilians and little children: in their incessant quest to conquer all the nations in the region, and expand inconceivably past what was granted them by the UN in 1948!!! (without any consultation of the people living on that land for a millenium! - in an era of Colonialism).

When the WHOLE WORLD should be struggling to stop Israel's tyrrany and mass murder of civilians and little children!!!

Let's also not forget how the US sanctions have killed millions of Iranians over the decades.

WTF is wrong with people's brains these days? The US is in a vice grip from 🇮🇱, and apparently happy to be, while the government neglects Americans and donates endlessly to 🇮🇱 🤪

charles leone's avatar

Pitchman, RINO Trump exit ramp:

Walk away and change the narrative for regime change in Cuba.

tre peperoncini's avatar

You’re giving the Trump regime far too much credit by saying ‘thankfully Trump called off the attack.’ That framing assumes a level of restraint or humanity — something this regime has never shown. More likely: logistics, political circumstances ,perhaps it was that recent big explosion made a renewed attack impossible. The way you described it implies the Trump regime has a conscience, is actual interested in making an agreement with Iran, that just nonsense!

The US regime arms and protects those carrying out a genocide, treats Ukraine as a disposable proxy, killed Venezuelan civilians for target practice, attacked and abandoned survivors of an unarmed Iranian navy ship, and double-tapped a girls’ school because their parents were navy personnel. That’s not a regime that ‘calls off’ attacks out of decency because there is a chance of an agreement. It’s a regime on a killing spree. Deceitful. Untrustworthy. Its Pure evil. There is nothing to be thankful for , it's a bloodthirsty regime, it's relentless, it's not seeking peace, it's not seeing agreement, it wants to dominate, but it can't , so this will never end until there is regime in Washington , the US empire must fall for peace happen.

Scenarica's avatar

The balance of power you're describing has shifted to a dimension that classical realism hasnt fully absorbed yet. Iran's leverage in this conflict is measured in inflation points and GDP drag rather than divisions or warheads. Hormuz as a chokepoint converts a regional military conflict into a direct tax on American consumers, and that tax is doing more strategic work than any battlefield result on either side.

Thats why humble pie becomes rational rather than humiliating at a specific threshold. Continued escalation imposes costs that run directly through the domestic economy, energy prices and bond yields that function as a tax on the population the war is supposedly protecting. When the cost of fighting exceeds the cost of conceding, the settlement becomes a macroeconomic calculation disguised as a diplomatic one. The generals lose the argument the moment the bond market prices the war as unaffordable.

Tyler's avatar

I was really hoping that I would read that all the critics were wrong and there was world peace… alas! I’m disappointed again.

Ulysses "Lyss" Bonner's avatar

I was hoping to read that Mearsheimer is the one eating humble pie.

Eight days ago, I answered Helena's question as follows:

https://helenaglass.substack.com/p/xi-jinping-and-trump-meeting-to-make/comment/258137708?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMjU3NTE4ODAsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE5NzQxMjMxOSwiaWF0IjoxNzc4NzIzMDM4LCJleHAiOjE3Nzg5ODIyMzgsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0xNDYwNTc5Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1jb21tZW50cyJ9.N2ezyzLbnw5aHamwippUKK9E5gtc8DjDeAGnusAEuyE#comment-258700272?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMjU3NTE4ODAsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE5NzQxMjMxOSwiaWF0IjoxNzc4NzIzMDM4LCJleHAiOjE3Nzg5ODIyMzgsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0xNDYwNTc5Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1jb21tZW50cyJ9.N2ezyzLbnw5aHamwippUKK9E5gtc8DjDeAGnusAEuyE

Ulysses "Lyss" Bonner

8d

Thanks Helena, for your interest. The only empire being slaughtered is the redshield empire in the City of London, also misleadingly known as "The Crown", of which China, Iran and Izzy had been the main proteges/beneficiaries. Slowing down the ruthless remnants of that empire of murderous egotistical slavery by anti-human Bolshevism is a benefit to America and to all of freedom-loving humanity in the long run. That is exactly what Trump is successfully doing to the chagrin (regret) of the quick-fix short term-thinking oh-so-clever second-guessing amateur naysayers.

P.S. I recently did a lot of commenting on Alexandra's Forbidden News Substack, in case you would be interested. Example: https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/sangreal

Ukrainian Ross's avatar

The Prof avoids the biggest hurdle in Yankee MSM talk. Well, what could that be?

The US role in funding the international War Crimes Trials of PRC + Kremlin Muscovy mass atrocity perpetrators.

The 2016 + 2026 MAGA POTUS Trump + his elite all avoid the topic of immediate funding of the legal staff needed to hold, prosecute + punish these blatant Genocide Criminals.

Trump needs to immediately stop all his scam blather using code words like PEACE + Cease Fire!

Trump needs to state a few simple sentences. Putin, immediately return back to the 2013 border lines with Ukraine as your Kremlin Muscovy transmit $10,000,000 in gold bullion for compensation + reparation to each and every mass abducted, tortured, maimed, raped or human trafficked Ukrainian.

The second sentence is: Putin, immediately fund in gold bullion the international criminal court network of staff necessary inside Ukraine to hold, process + try all Kremlin Muscovy Kolonizers that committed War crimes in Ukraine such as child rape + abduction.

The USA does not recognize in law that the pretence 0f the wearing kremlin Muscovy Halloween costumes while on the territory of 2013 Ukraine some how exempts Criminal Kolonizirs from trial + punishment. Remember that the fascist grandmother of all 2026 Muscovy fervently self-married herself in a forever marriage to NAZI Hitler in 1939-40-41.

That is the only Trump goal + duty remaining in his cuddling sessions with Putin. The innate psychological need of Trump to help steal 50 Trillion in USD of Ukrainian resources and split the theft with Putin is not a legal duty of a POTUS. Maybe, Trump will still be addicted to con + bluster + railroad the Ukrainians to donate a few Trillion in USD of stolen Ukrainian resources to his blood children? His kids need easy spoils to start a run for US President in the coming few months.

Two simple sentences stated clearly from Trump + the Kremlin Muscovy international war criminals will Yellow Belliie Panic run right out of all the FREE homes, farms + businesses they stole from butchered Ukrainian families. The Yellow Muscovy are guaranteed to panic run to Moscow in very short days as soon as Trump has the internal morality to forcefully speak to Putin as if he, Trump, is holding the Lord's Bible to the vile face of Satan.

The Prof, et al, has not breached the his first address of the above 2 simple sentences as of yet. The Prof can be the first tenured Academic in the USA/North America to read, apply + breath the above concepts!! Or, peer readers, do prove me wrong with your factual research !

Adam Tabriz's avatar

Professor Mearsheimer is probably correct structurally, but “eat humble pie” may not be politically realistic when it comes to Trump himself.

A realist analysis has to include leader psychology, domestic incentives, and narrative preservation, not just material constraints. That is also where John Mearsheimer’s realism is especially useful: although he focuses on structural pressures and balances of power, his realism does not assume leaders can simply ignore domestic political realities or personal incentives when translating strategy into public policy.

Trump may privately recognize that escalation has limits and that Iran cannot be forced into unconditional surrender cheaply. But publicly accepting a deal that looks like retreat or Iranian survival risks colliding with the image of dominance and “winning” that defines much of his political identity.

So the likely outcome, if a deal emerges, is not open humility but face-saving theater:

“peace through strength,” “historic deal,” “Iran backed down,” etc.

That may be the real contradiction of this moment:

Strategic realism increasingly points toward compromise, while political realism makes compromise difficult to admit openly.

dany's avatar

Regarding a renewed attack on Iran, do you consider the potential impact of the Hajj pilgrimage in Mecca starting this week end, and ending on May 31st ?

Marco's avatar

Enjoy your meal and don't leave anything on your plate.

dany's avatar

John, did you have the opportunity to have a look on the Chinese State Security ministry document assessing the China-USA relationship ?

Published on May 13th…

Ukrainian Ross's avatar

The MUNK encounter in an alien country with a vastly different foreign legal system!

Yep, the Prof could pop up with a scholia or even a disquisition of his synopsis of this foreign expedition to the Bin Ladin funded terrorist HQ town.

Again, every one in Yankee knows so much about 2014 Ukraine. Wow. The POTUS Barry Obama betrayal of the WEST, his covert, unilateral facilitation of the Balkanization of independent Ukraine as Obama joyfully capitulated to vassal Kremlin Muscovy Putin on February 6th, 2014 is on every Americans mind. Not.

The decades long hunt, the relentless pursuit of Kremlin Muscovy who fervently married NAZI Hitler in 1939-40-41 is also a very big USA concern! NOT.

One year the Kremlin Muscovy NAZI couple is in legal love, the next year the divorcee of Hitler is demanding that the USA fund for FREE all the fascist military needs of the Kremlin commie Bolsheviks.

Today, real Muscovy grandchildren of this 1939 NAZI marriage + divorce are being invited into the USA as legal immigrants or visitors. No questions at the US border are asked about if they were butchers as they Kolonized Ukraine since 2014?

The Ukrainian state agency, the SBU was run by Kremlin FSB until 2014. Every intelligence type knows that basic fact about the Sluzba Bezpeky Ukrainy. Only when Obama facilitated the Balkanization of independent Ukraine did the Muscovy running the SBU all flee back to their NAZI grand mommy in Moscow.

The Prof is so eloquent, so 1602 Bodlecian in detail about all that Ukraine history stuff.

ron's avatar

I get that English is not your native language but it is impossible to understand what you are posting. Among other things it relies on so much childish name calling directed toward unnamed parties that it isn't even clear what the real subject of the rant is.

Any Person's avatar

Um, no, he is Canadian, probably living in Alberta with the rest of Freeland's Ukie-Nazi descendant-buddies.

Posts up AI-generated gibberish to clog the comments with noise so casual readers get tired of it and stop scrolling.

Gnuneo's avatar
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Can't help wondering if non-English-speaking Nazis in other countries garble their languages as bad as the 'English'-speaking ones do.

Abhishek Singh Chauhan's avatar

Now there is no doubt this corrupt man is engaged in market manipulation. He is a pathological lier and American is in decline more than ever because of this administration.

Blackeyebart's avatar

Trump may have to eat humble pie, but he wont look humble eating it!

Mr. B's avatar

“Over a barrel” and “humble pie” are among my favorite phrases John subtly injects into the politics vernacular

David Anglin's avatar

What about the deals DJT made like Boeing? Making his family and buddies richer?