However, I think first and foremost bombing Iran would be a horrific detectable unspeakable War Crime, just as is being done to Libya, Yemen, already done to Lebanon and Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, and right now is being done to Somalia, Ethiopia and Sudan with the worst done beforea to Yemen for years. The 7 Countries in 5 years has not worked out all that well. Then there is the Palestinians- the 76 year war against the Palestinian People by Zionist Jews determined to take all the land from the River to the Sea and much more, despite the fact that Palestinians had lived there for at least hundreds of years. They have been murdered, tortured imprisoned, bombed, shot and starved and still they rise - until now - this is to be their final hour, either death or forced expulsion. This was always the Israeli Government's plan - and hopes and Dreams, built on the blood and bones of Palestinians. This is what the Colonialists and then the U.S. did to the Indigenous Peoples.
Did you ever see the interview Jeffery Sachs did with Tucker Carlson where he explains all our 21st century Middle eastern wars were done for the benefit of Israel? Netanyahu in his book Fighting Terrorism written in 1996 listed all the countries he perceived to be a threat to Israel and didn't we take them out. If you remember Westley Clark talking about the fact that we were going to take down 7 countries even before to went into Afghanistan and all of which we did except for Iran? Netanyahu truly pushed the war in Iraq with the lie they were in pursuit of developing nuclear weapons, which they were not. We seem to do Israel's bidding and it doesn't service our needs at all. AIPAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trump sounded like a moron in how he defined how the Palestinians wound up in Gaza and the pretense of having a life while they resided in a place where they were periodically bombed, thousands killed, and had to have permission to come and go. I give up.
Over the past several months I’ve sat next to Jewish people on flights who happen to be zionists and I’ve asked them what they think about the situation in Gaza. What’s interesting is that they seem to immediately become more animated and defensive. The one flight was leaving Jackson Hole where the majority of the people on the plane were skiers. The Jewish couple I sat next to had been skiing and they were headed back to New York City. They seemed to have it all. As the conversation went on, and especially toward the end of the conversation, I wanted to tell them that due to their lack of empathy towards those who are bullied and less fortunate they seemed to be ugly from the inside out. I’m glad I bit my tongue.
It’s too bad that Joe Biden didn’t nip the brutalization of the Palestinians in the bud immediately after 10/7/23. It was another missed opportunity to try to be on the right side of history.
It amazes me as to how good we are at making the train run on time but we continue to head down the wrong track.
It's unfortunate that people see those that are anti-Zionist as anti-Semitic, but they are not, and are simply people who were aware of the impending dangers should the Zionists get the upper hand which they have now. In fact any criticism of Israel is seen in that light and now even more so, however in the long run it operates to their detriment and will bring on their destruction as well. Why Israelis think you can continue this course of action with impunity is beyond me.
We know that Netanyahu isa big lier - an inventor of stories not backed by facts- is the eternal story of jazaries sionist - of the Crimea and west Ucrania. As is the father of Netanyahu.
Mearsheimer, you’ve spent your career blaming Israel for the violence inflicted by those who want it wiped off the map. Your so-called “realism” is just a cover for deep-seated hostility toward the region’s only democracy.
Let’s review how this war started: on October 7th, Hamas launched an unprovoked massacre—killing 1,200 innocent Israelis and kidnapping 251 others. The war could have ended at any time had Hamas released those hostages—many of whom have since died in captivity, under the most inhumane and barbaric conditions.
Your hypocrisy knows no end. Instead of demanding Israel “negotiate” with monsters, the only thing worth discussing is how to ensure Hamas never does this again. That means removing them from power—freeing not just Israelis from terror, but Palestinians from their brutal grip.
You want to prevent future war? Then support a focused, three-day bombing campaign to eliminate Iran’s drone systems, ballistic missiles, and nuclear weapons infrastructure. That’s how you make the region safer for decades.
And let’s not pretend: if Hamas succeeded in destroying Israel, you’d be the first to rationalize it—just as you’ve justified every attack up to now. Shame on you.
I hope it comforts you to know that Iran doesn't NEED nukes. Iran recently demonstrated (at Nevatim airbase) it's ability to accurately and with impunity, strike anywhere in Israel with hypersonic missiles..anywhere including the Dimona nuclear site. Iran can irradiate great swathes of Israel any day of the week and chooses NOT to do so 🤷♂️
Possibly because Iran hasn't started a war in aeons, and their only real beef with Israel is the plight of the Palestinians. It's Israel, in fact, that regularly violates the sovereignty of her neighbours (including Iran) with bombings, extra-judicial assassinations, industrial sabotage, invasions and false flag wars 🤷♂️ Iran does, also in fact, have a fatwa AGAINST nuclear weapons, whereas Israel STOLE their nuclear knowledge and fissile materials in violation of international law.
You moron you still can’t get October 7 right. The Jews incinerated their own people as a pretext for genocide. By your own standard of ethics they therefore must be defeated and expelled.
Of course the Jews are responsible for their own violence you lunatic. Who you going to blame? Martians? And there is no particular reason why a nation of child killers should be on the map in the first place. There is something wrong with you.
Hmm let me think. Israel is the 9th largest exporter of arms in the world.. and the 17th in terms of military firepower.. And wait they have Gaza walled in and control all entry and exit points.. they control, food-rationed per person on a calorie basis, power, what comes in and out with checkpoints… etc..And has OCCUPIED THE STRIP FOR 57 years…so Hamas funded by Netanyahu to destabilise the PA… is going to destroy Israel… really.. with handguns???? Really is that what keeps you awake? Oh while I remember every eligible conscripted Israeli knows how to kill and probably has a handgun… and A bunch of Palestinians are going to destroy Israel !! really..?
Hamas (created and funded by Netanyahu as a foil to Fatah) has no desire to destroy Israel, Hamas seeks an independent state, just as the Jewish terrorists who invented terrorism in Palestine did...those of the Irgun, Stern Gang, Haganah, Lehi..three of those terrorists went on to become Israeli Prime Ministers, can you name them? You seem riddled with ignorance and/or hypocrisy.
It's rather disgusting Richard that your sense of humanity only extends to the Jews, to your own, and no one else. You don't even realize how profoundly inhumane you are when it comes to other people. You constantly reference the assaults of Jews on October 7th by Hamas, and never recognize, or just can't see the horror that is being implemented on the Palestinians, and rely on Hamas as your scapegoat to justify Israel's inhumanity which is profound, and one day will destroy her as well.
Of course you will. Meet me at a Halloween dress up. You go as a Jew so you can flex on all the other monsters. Since compared to a Jew these guys are all sweet hearted
You Hamas apologists are beyond disgraceful—you’re pathological. You twist facts, erase atrocities, and parrot terrorist propaganda like you’re auditioning for a job at Iranian state TV.
Let’s be clear: October 7 started this war. Hamas invaded a sovereign country, raped women, burned children alive, and dragged 251 people into captivity. That’s not “resistance”—that’s barbarism. And the only reason it hasn’t ended is because Hamas still holds innocent hostages and refuses every deal.
Graeme, your posts are pure unfiltered antisemitism. “Nation of child killers”? “Incinerated their own”? You sound like you ripped pages from Der Stürmer and posted them with a VPN. You don’t care about Palestinians. You care about justifying your deranged hatred of Jews.
Shane, your idiocy is matched only by your historical ignorance. Claiming Netanyahu created Hamas is laughable. Hamas was founded in 1987 by the Muslim Brotherhood—look it up. And no, they’re not seeking independence—they’re seeking Israel’s destruction, as stated in their charter. Iran doesn’t nuke Israel because they can’t—not because they’re merciful. They’re just waiting until they can.
You people aren’t activists. You’re collaborators. You excuse terrorism, celebrate antisemitism, and dress it up in faux concern for human rights. The world sees right through it.
History won’t be kind to cowards who cheer for genocidal theocrats while calling Jews “inhumane” for defending themselves. You don’t deserve a seat at the table—you belong in the trash heap of failed ideologies, alongside every regime that tried and failed to wipe out the Jewish people.
Mearsheimer must have been brought up right. He did all he could to try and head off the violence in the Ukraine. The Jew-created White-on-white violence in the Ukraine.
So quite apart from your racial handicap I must cast aspersions on your parents. They were no good. They brought you up to be an Ork.
So am I you low dog. Few challenge your rolling thunder of child murder outright. They always hedge. They always precede their comments with devils advocate caveats for the the demons.
Jaffee are you a Jew? You are a fucking liar. The Jews were the mortal enemy of those hostages and not only on day one. They tried to bomb and starve them all that time. If Jews were normal humans they would have had them all back by November.
There you sit surrounded by terrorist low lives in the most evil gang of child killers the planet has ever come up with accusing others of being cowards. You are an absolute dog.
Smart people argue with facts. The ignorant spew lies and insults because they don’t have any. The clowns polluting this message board prove the point better than I ever could.
Thanks a lot for showcasing your expertise on this subject. I was left with one question: What is the interest of Israel in having the entire middle east becoming a wasteland? They already have an extreme military dominance and an open attack on iran could weaken their support in the western world where they get most of their support from.
Meanwhile Turkey is supposed to be pivotal to NATO continuance, yet a critical part of Syria's "liberation" involves a massive expansion of Kurdish territory. While those Alawites and christians may not matter much to the Turks, sunni people in Gaza do matter. So with Russia now getting control of all the Black Sea oblasts, isn't this support of Kurds and smashing of Palestinians something of a problem? Azov...Black Sea...Bosporus...
It would be a touch easier to take US-Israel;s brutal adventurism if it made a bit of sense.
Yes, I see your point. Maybe I should have emphasised that the reduction of Palestine and division of Syria are coming with Kurdish expansion, something of concern to Turks on all levels. While shi'ite and alawite arabs have a connection to Ottoman arch-enemy Persia, the sunni arabs of Palestine are former subjects with less compromising connections. Of course, I'm simplifying what it fantastically complex.
I don't know if they lied and to be honest I expect that from politicians. That said,
1) Know I've heard some real "whoppers" from Hamas.
2) Hamas has no compunction about engaging in terrorism.
3) If one wants to correct wrongs from events 80 years ago, the world would be in a perpetual state of war if people did not "move on" because pretty much everyone has done nasty things.
How is it "terrorism"? By international law, the occupying power has NO RIGHT TO DEFENSE against the occupied people, who are expected to resist. By your inane logic, the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising were the terrorists, and the Nazis were the victims 🙄
Assuming for a moment that your interpretation of the law is correct, I would not follow any such law, and I'm a "render unto Ceasar" sort of guy.
Actually, I suppose until actually faced with such a situation, I do not know how I would react, but I would sure like to think that if I were in the Warsaw Ghetto, I would not kill German children unless, of course, they were armed. I am not aware of the participants in the uprising killing unarmed children.
Excuse me, but why would there be German children in the Jewish ghetto, in Warsaw POLAND? 🤔 You seem greatly perplexed by both recent history and international law as regards warfare. Were you educated in America?
It is terrible, and I have no idea why Hamas persists or why a few people support them.
I do know that people do not go down without a terrible fight and as US actions toward the end of WW2 show, the inevitable result should Hamas ever come close to success would be the death of close to all Palestinians. The rules would go out the window even by a party trying to follow the rules of war when threatened by a group willing to do the things done by Hamas.
Gazans are very lucky that the US and Israel developed weapons like Iron Dome too. I feel very good from a moral perspective that the US has played a role in protecting so many Gazans. Gazans have brought disaster upon themselves.
Tel me Jeff Boyd. What are the rules of war according to you?
Here is a point I think you should think about because it is coming for you USA; It is possible to think to the future but you don't do this in the USA because MOSTLY a country of ill educated people
When the world turns against YOU because of your nefarious policies who are you going to call to help you out?
YOU continually make wars on Sovereign Countries.......this will all come back to you.
Would add that I am probably far more educated than you. I'm not as educated as Dr. Mearsheimer, but I clearly understand the laws of genocide better than him. Never be intimidated by someone who is smarter than you; once you understand a topic, even if someone understands it better, they might just be putting forward an argument for a position that they could, if they wanted, argue both ways.
There are problems in Political Science, too. One is that they hand out Ph. D.s like candy. However, I am impressed by his military career.
Strive to understand the other party's position is a good rule of thumb to follow, and I know the arguments for the position that Israel has committed genocide. The original UN convention is worded such that many actions arguably constitute genocide that are not, in fact, genocide. That is why we have courts, and even they occasionally make mistakes. The ICJ makes far more mistakes than a typical court.
I only know the basics. Israel has followed the rules to the best of my knowledge, although mistakes will regularly occur because humans make mistakes. For example, Israeli soldiers killed three hostages that we know of; I feel terrible for the soldier(s) who pulled the triggers.
I was on the fence regarding the 2nd Iraqi war but the US conducted itself with honor and gave the Iraqi's a chance. I'm particularly proud that we did not withdraw when civil war broke out.
I would not have invaded Grenada, but the people of that country and the rescued students are sure glad we did.
Some, such as Libya, were iffy, but I get why the US did what it did. A good argument also exists for cutting off humanitarian aid to countries acting against the US in areas such as Yemen, which the Houthis control a good portion of the country. Maybe even South Africa, too, but I probably wouldn't do so. There is much suffering in the world even today but the US has sure done a lot to alleviate it and if people in other countries hate the US, it does not bother me in the least. It is a natural reaction to blame someone else for your problems, even if I do not do it often.
The US has done a lot to "alleviate suffering"? You NUKED teo cities full of civilians for no reason other than to demonstrate the weapons for Russian benefit. You killed MILLIONS of North Korean, Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians to stop "the domino effect" of Communism that never happened anyway even though never saw victory. You have killed MILLIONS of Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, all for Israel, and that's just a start. Your nation is an abject joke on the world's stage, lurching from crisis to crisis like an infant with ADD and a loaded handgun, a national mindset probably informed at an early age by your countless school shootings and mass casualty events 🙄 Evolve, already.
I guess you missed the part where Iran struck back at Israel and demonstrated their ability to defeat Iron Dome, David's Sling, Arrow, Patriot and USN SM-type missiles by landing about thirty hypersonic missiles on Nevatim airbase with impunity 🤔 Weird, as it was widely reported, filmed, and satellite confirmation exists. If you missed that, then you also missed the message, which is that Iran can strike the Dimona nuclear site any day of the week and irradiate great swathes of Israel if push comes to shove, those ending the "Jewish State" for centuries.
However, I think first and foremost bombing Iran would be a horrific detectable unspeakable War Crime, just as is being done to Libya, Yemen, already done to Lebanon and Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, and right now is being done to Somalia, Ethiopia and Sudan with the worst done beforea to Yemen for years. The 7 Countries in 5 years has not worked out all that well. Then there is the Palestinians- the 76 year war against the Palestinian People by Zionist Jews determined to take all the land from the River to the Sea and much more, despite the fact that Palestinians had lived there for at least hundreds of years. They have been murdered, tortured imprisoned, bombed, shot and starved and still they rise - until now - this is to be their final hour, either death or forced expulsion. This was always the Israeli Government's plan - and hopes and Dreams, built on the blood and bones of Palestinians. This is what the Colonialists and then the U.S. did to the Indigenous Peoples.
Did you ever see the interview Jeffery Sachs did with Tucker Carlson where he explains all our 21st century Middle eastern wars were done for the benefit of Israel? Netanyahu in his book Fighting Terrorism written in 1996 listed all the countries he perceived to be a threat to Israel and didn't we take them out. If you remember Westley Clark talking about the fact that we were going to take down 7 countries even before to went into Afghanistan and all of which we did except for Iran? Netanyahu truly pushed the war in Iraq with the lie they were in pursuit of developing nuclear weapons, which they were not. We seem to do Israel's bidding and it doesn't service our needs at all. AIPAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When was the last time the US won a war? Grenada!
Trump sounded like a moron in how he defined how the Palestinians wound up in Gaza and the pretense of having a life while they resided in a place where they were periodically bombed, thousands killed, and had to have permission to come and go. I give up.
ALL politicians sound like morons to me. Yes.......is that an option, giving up?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/12/17/jeffrey_sachs_israel_has_run_american_foreign_policy_in_the_middle_east_for_30_years.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/12/17/jeffrey_sachs_israel_has_run_american_foreign_policy_in_the_middle_east_for_30_years.html
Over the past several months I’ve sat next to Jewish people on flights who happen to be zionists and I’ve asked them what they think about the situation in Gaza. What’s interesting is that they seem to immediately become more animated and defensive. The one flight was leaving Jackson Hole where the majority of the people on the plane were skiers. The Jewish couple I sat next to had been skiing and they were headed back to New York City. They seemed to have it all. As the conversation went on, and especially toward the end of the conversation, I wanted to tell them that due to their lack of empathy towards those who are bullied and less fortunate they seemed to be ugly from the inside out. I’m glad I bit my tongue.
It’s too bad that Joe Biden didn’t nip the brutalization of the Palestinians in the bud immediately after 10/7/23. It was another missed opportunity to try to be on the right side of history.
It amazes me as to how good we are at making the train run on time but we continue to head down the wrong track.
Unfortunately you’re correct…
It's unfortunate that people see those that are anti-Zionist as anti-Semitic, but they are not, and are simply people who were aware of the impending dangers should the Zionists get the upper hand which they have now. In fact any criticism of Israel is seen in that light and now even more so, however in the long run it operates to their detriment and will bring on their destruction as well. Why Israelis think you can continue this course of action with impunity is beyond me.
We know that Netanyahu isa big lier - an inventor of stories not backed by facts- is the eternal story of jazaries sionist - of the Crimea and west Ucrania. As is the father of Netanyahu.
Excellent interview!!! Thank you Pr. Mearsheimer. May there be more like you.
Trump would betray MAGA in a nano second
When countries 'arm' a Genocidal State.....known as Israhell.
What do you think will happen to you all in the Western World when this is finished?
It's already happening in the USA. Taking out American Citizens because they do not support Zionism!
Sit in your houses and do nothing.
Your citizens are 'armed to the teeth' yet you DO nothing.
Does it occur to you that you are OWNED by Zionism. Wait till they come for you.
Trump has zero morale compass
Extremely immoral
Mearsheimer, you’ve spent your career blaming Israel for the violence inflicted by those who want it wiped off the map. Your so-called “realism” is just a cover for deep-seated hostility toward the region’s only democracy.
Let’s review how this war started: on October 7th, Hamas launched an unprovoked massacre—killing 1,200 innocent Israelis and kidnapping 251 others. The war could have ended at any time had Hamas released those hostages—many of whom have since died in captivity, under the most inhumane and barbaric conditions.
Your hypocrisy knows no end. Instead of demanding Israel “negotiate” with monsters, the only thing worth discussing is how to ensure Hamas never does this again. That means removing them from power—freeing not just Israelis from terror, but Palestinians from their brutal grip.
You want to prevent future war? Then support a focused, three-day bombing campaign to eliminate Iran’s drone systems, ballistic missiles, and nuclear weapons infrastructure. That’s how you make the region safer for decades.
And let’s not pretend: if Hamas succeeded in destroying Israel, you’d be the first to rationalize it—just as you’ve justified every attack up to now. Shame on you.
I hope it comforts you to know that Iran doesn't NEED nukes. Iran recently demonstrated (at Nevatim airbase) it's ability to accurately and with impunity, strike anywhere in Israel with hypersonic missiles..anywhere including the Dimona nuclear site. Iran can irradiate great swathes of Israel any day of the week and chooses NOT to do so 🤷♂️
Ever consider why they do not? Would be interested in hearing your perspective on the topic and the implications if they were to have nuclear weapons.
Possibly because Iran hasn't started a war in aeons, and their only real beef with Israel is the plight of the Palestinians. It's Israel, in fact, that regularly violates the sovereignty of her neighbours (including Iran) with bombings, extra-judicial assassinations, industrial sabotage, invasions and false flag wars 🤷♂️ Iran does, also in fact, have a fatwa AGAINST nuclear weapons, whereas Israel STOLE their nuclear knowledge and fissile materials in violation of international law.
You moron you still can’t get October 7 right. The Jews incinerated their own people as a pretext for genocide. By your own standard of ethics they therefore must be defeated and expelled.
Of course the Jews are responsible for their own violence you lunatic. Who you going to blame? Martians? And there is no particular reason why a nation of child killers should be on the map in the first place. There is something wrong with you.
Hmm let me think. Israel is the 9th largest exporter of arms in the world.. and the 17th in terms of military firepower.. And wait they have Gaza walled in and control all entry and exit points.. they control, food-rationed per person on a calorie basis, power, what comes in and out with checkpoints… etc..And has OCCUPIED THE STRIP FOR 57 years…so Hamas funded by Netanyahu to destabilise the PA… is going to destroy Israel… really.. with handguns???? Really is that what keeps you awake? Oh while I remember every eligible conscripted Israeli knows how to kill and probably has a handgun… and A bunch of Palestinians are going to destroy Israel !! really..?
Hamas (created and funded by Netanyahu as a foil to Fatah) has no desire to destroy Israel, Hamas seeks an independent state, just as the Jewish terrorists who invented terrorism in Palestine did...those of the Irgun, Stern Gang, Haganah, Lehi..three of those terrorists went on to become Israeli Prime Ministers, can you name them? You seem riddled with ignorance and/or hypocrisy.
It's rather disgusting Richard that your sense of humanity only extends to the Jews, to your own, and no one else. You don't even realize how profoundly inhumane you are when it comes to other people. You constantly reference the assaults of Jews on October 7th by Hamas, and never recognize, or just can't see the horror that is being implemented on the Palestinians, and rely on Hamas as your scapegoat to justify Israel's inhumanity which is profound, and one day will destroy her as well.
GO away.
Get your teeth fixed you ugly wench.
Unprovoked? In what world do you live
Of course you will. Meet me at a Halloween dress up. You go as a Jew so you can flex on all the other monsters. Since compared to a Jew these guys are all sweet hearted
You Hamas apologists are beyond disgraceful—you’re pathological. You twist facts, erase atrocities, and parrot terrorist propaganda like you’re auditioning for a job at Iranian state TV.
Let’s be clear: October 7 started this war. Hamas invaded a sovereign country, raped women, burned children alive, and dragged 251 people into captivity. That’s not “resistance”—that’s barbarism. And the only reason it hasn’t ended is because Hamas still holds innocent hostages and refuses every deal.
Graeme, your posts are pure unfiltered antisemitism. “Nation of child killers”? “Incinerated their own”? You sound like you ripped pages from Der Stürmer and posted them with a VPN. You don’t care about Palestinians. You care about justifying your deranged hatred of Jews.
Shane, your idiocy is matched only by your historical ignorance. Claiming Netanyahu created Hamas is laughable. Hamas was founded in 1987 by the Muslim Brotherhood—look it up. And no, they’re not seeking independence—they’re seeking Israel’s destruction, as stated in their charter. Iran doesn’t nuke Israel because they can’t—not because they’re merciful. They’re just waiting until they can.
You people aren’t activists. You’re collaborators. You excuse terrorism, celebrate antisemitism, and dress it up in faux concern for human rights. The world sees right through it.
History won’t be kind to cowards who cheer for genocidal theocrats while calling Jews “inhumane” for defending themselves. You don’t deserve a seat at the table—you belong in the trash heap of failed ideologies, alongside every regime that tried and failed to wipe out the Jewish people.
Of course I support Hamas. They are the good guys trying to defend against degenerate child murderers
Sick fuck
Yes you are. Every Jew is Freddy Krueger.
I’m glad everyone gets to read these comments to see the lowlifes who support Mearsheimer. You speak for yourselves at how despicable you all are.
Mearsheimer must have been brought up right. He did all he could to try and head off the violence in the Ukraine. The Jew-created White-on-white violence in the Ukraine.
So quite apart from your racial handicap I must cast aspersions on your parents. They were no good. They brought you up to be an Ork.
So am I you low dog. Few challenge your rolling thunder of child murder outright. They always hedge. They always precede their comments with devils advocate caveats for the the demons.
Jaffee are you a Jew? You are a fucking liar. The Jews were the mortal enemy of those hostages and not only on day one. They tried to bomb and starve them all that time. If Jews were normal humans they would have had them all back by November.
Speak up troglodyte. Justify yourself.
Yes I am, you piece of shit. Identify yourself like a man, you coward.
There you sit surrounded by terrorist low lives in the most evil gang of child killers the planet has ever come up with accusing others of being cowards. You are an absolute dog.
Coward. Low life. Moron. Well done, idiot.
You are a piece of shit and a coward. Yes you ARE a Jew. And you act in a Jew fashion.
I’ll meet you any place, anytime.
Try this
History continues…
https://fb.watch/yYFucbDIYk/?
Smart people argue with facts. The ignorant spew lies and insults because they don’t have any. The clowns polluting this message board prove the point better than I ever could.
Thanks a lot for showcasing your expertise on this subject. I was left with one question: What is the interest of Israel in having the entire middle east becoming a wasteland? They already have an extreme military dominance and an open attack on iran could weaken their support in the western world where they get most of their support from.
Virginia Giuffre was working at Maralago when recruited by Epstein, Trumps friend. No one talks about this …
I think it's important to stay current with the latest lies and distortions.
Meanwhile Turkey is supposed to be pivotal to NATO continuance, yet a critical part of Syria's "liberation" involves a massive expansion of Kurdish territory. While those Alawites and christians may not matter much to the Turks, sunni people in Gaza do matter. So with Russia now getting control of all the Black Sea oblasts, isn't this support of Kurds and smashing of Palestinians something of a problem? Azov...Black Sea...Bosporus...
It would be a touch easier to take US-Israel;s brutal adventurism if it made a bit of sense.
Yes, I see your point. Maybe I should have emphasised that the reduction of Palestine and division of Syria are coming with Kurdish expansion, something of concern to Turks on all levels. While shi'ite and alawite arabs have a connection to Ottoman arch-enemy Persia, the sunni arabs of Palestine are former subjects with less compromising connections. Of course, I'm simplifying what it fantastically complex.
Do you understand Americans that: YOUR Country is murdering/killing Civilians in a Country named Palestine.
Tell me you morons: Who created Israhell?
Do you even know?
I suggest US people should look at History. Stupid people with no Geography or History.
It's coming for you America.
Did I say that? NO!
I don't know if they lied and to be honest I expect that from politicians. That said,
1) Know I've heard some real "whoppers" from Hamas.
2) Hamas has no compunction about engaging in terrorism.
3) If one wants to correct wrongs from events 80 years ago, the world would be in a perpetual state of war if people did not "move on" because pretty much everyone has done nasty things.
How is it "terrorism"? By international law, the occupying power has NO RIGHT TO DEFENSE against the occupied people, who are expected to resist. By your inane logic, the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising were the terrorists, and the Nazis were the victims 🙄
Assuming for a moment that your interpretation of the law is correct, I would not follow any such law, and I'm a "render unto Ceasar" sort of guy.
Actually, I suppose until actually faced with such a situation, I do not know how I would react, but I would sure like to think that if I were in the Warsaw Ghetto, I would not kill German children unless, of course, they were armed. I am not aware of the participants in the uprising killing unarmed children.
Excuse me, but why would there be German children in the Jewish ghetto, in Warsaw POLAND? 🤔 You seem greatly perplexed by both recent history and international law as regards warfare. Were you educated in America?
Can you please tell me Jeff Boyd: I presume you are American and you don't seem to mind that Palestinians are genocided??
There is NOTHING 'nastier' than killing children/infants.
It is terrible, and I have no idea why Hamas persists or why a few people support them.
I do know that people do not go down without a terrible fight and as US actions toward the end of WW2 show, the inevitable result should Hamas ever come close to success would be the death of close to all Palestinians. The rules would go out the window even by a party trying to follow the rules of war when threatened by a group willing to do the things done by Hamas.
Gazans are very lucky that the US and Israel developed weapons like Iron Dome too. I feel very good from a moral perspective that the US has played a role in protecting so many Gazans. Gazans have brought disaster upon themselves.
Tel me Jeff Boyd. What are the rules of war according to you?
Here is a point I think you should think about because it is coming for you USA; It is possible to think to the future but you don't do this in the USA because MOSTLY a country of ill educated people
When the world turns against YOU because of your nefarious policies who are you going to call to help you out?
YOU continually make wars on Sovereign Countries.......this will all come back to you.
Imagine: Your own Country being deccimated?
USA is hated throughout the world.
Would add that I am probably far more educated than you. I'm not as educated as Dr. Mearsheimer, but I clearly understand the laws of genocide better than him. Never be intimidated by someone who is smarter than you; once you understand a topic, even if someone understands it better, they might just be putting forward an argument for a position that they could, if they wanted, argue both ways.
There are problems in Political Science, too. One is that they hand out Ph. D.s like candy. However, I am impressed by his military career.
Strive to understand the other party's position is a good rule of thumb to follow, and I know the arguments for the position that Israel has committed genocide. The original UN convention is worded such that many actions arguably constitute genocide that are not, in fact, genocide. That is why we have courts, and even they occasionally make mistakes. The ICJ makes far more mistakes than a typical court.
I only know the basics. Israel has followed the rules to the best of my knowledge, although mistakes will regularly occur because humans make mistakes. For example, Israeli soldiers killed three hostages that we know of; I feel terrible for the soldier(s) who pulled the triggers.
I was on the fence regarding the 2nd Iraqi war but the US conducted itself with honor and gave the Iraqi's a chance. I'm particularly proud that we did not withdraw when civil war broke out.
I would not have invaded Grenada, but the people of that country and the rescued students are sure glad we did.
Some, such as Libya, were iffy, but I get why the US did what it did. A good argument also exists for cutting off humanitarian aid to countries acting against the US in areas such as Yemen, which the Houthis control a good portion of the country. Maybe even South Africa, too, but I probably wouldn't do so. There is much suffering in the world even today but the US has sure done a lot to alleviate it and if people in other countries hate the US, it does not bother me in the least. It is a natural reaction to blame someone else for your problems, even if I do not do it often.
I have absolutely no interest in responding to you.
I think you are a Zionist Bot.
Yep; I'm a bot.
The US has done a lot to "alleviate suffering"? You NUKED teo cities full of civilians for no reason other than to demonstrate the weapons for Russian benefit. You killed MILLIONS of North Korean, Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians to stop "the domino effect" of Communism that never happened anyway even though never saw victory. You have killed MILLIONS of Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, all for Israel, and that's just a start. Your nation is an abject joke on the world's stage, lurching from crisis to crisis like an infant with ADD and a loaded handgun, a national mindset probably informed at an early age by your countless school shootings and mass casualty events 🙄 Evolve, already.
I guess you missed the part where Iran struck back at Israel and demonstrated their ability to defeat Iron Dome, David's Sling, Arrow, Patriot and USN SM-type missiles by landing about thirty hypersonic missiles on Nevatim airbase with impunity 🤔 Weird, as it was widely reported, filmed, and satellite confirmation exists. If you missed that, then you also missed the message, which is that Iran can strike the Dimona nuclear site any day of the week and irradiate great swathes of Israel if push comes to shove, those ending the "Jewish State" for centuries.
I know the history far better than most, but even the most favorable reading from the Palestinian perspective would not change things. See #3.