The Israel Lobby at Work & More
Below is a podcast I did on 23 February 2024 with Gita Wirjawan, a former Indonesian Trade Minister and a true Renaissance man. We covered all the big foreign policy issues of the day. It was actually my second lengthy podcast with him.
The advice to students at the end is priceless
I think I would love to listen to an interview the other way round -- Mearsheimer interviewing Wirjawan for an hour or so. I suspect I would learn a lot.